And here comes China...

Oh little Bronco. I appreciate all of the attention you are giving- and really I’d return the favor with a rebuttal to your entire post, as you did for me, but unfortunately the demands of a job and a healthy social life prevent me from having the time. There’s only so much time one can devote to schooling strangers on a message board who toss 8th grade level smack your way.

You like links? How about we use your own link because you clearly don’t understand it. You googled “best solar panels” efficiency etc and found some guy’s personal list. His numbers are mostly correct, and his efficiency rate for the Solyndra panel is certainly disputed as I found other sources that quote 12-14%, not 8.8% as he does. Here’s the meat that Bronco is not quite understanding, from his own link:

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Somehow I missed this fine rebuttal by Mcbrett. I think his response speaks for itself.

As expected and as is customary you made certain proclomations about Soilyndra and failed to provide one single shred of evidence to back up your claims. (of course with your busy social life it is hard to add a link. They take all of 3 seconds or so)

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I think someone on this thread has bought a lot of Solyndra panels and is trying to justify it...

I know nothing about solar panels and I bought Bronco's argument.
 
Nah militaryhorn, I've never bought a solar panel in my life- but would love to sometime when the house situation is good for it.

If you're buying bronco's story, I'd like to sell you my old house. PM me for details- it's a great price, just for you and Bronco.

Bronco- I'm done with this thread now- you completely trashed it with your stupidity. You're focused on solyndra and now their efficiency, one aspect of several that describe whether or not a panel is worthy, and missed the entire point despite it being explained to you several times. Solyndra is not a real discussion for you- it's instead something political which is the best explanation for why someone with a Texas degree wouldn't want to acknowledge that what one cares about is how many electrons you get for the dollar- aka $/mwhr. Whereas you instead harp on one partly correct link you googled for the first time that says the efficiency is low and you call it a day, arms folded and proud of yourself.

Your entire last response was "I don't like what you're saying, go find new links for me so I can ignore those too!" Well- I used your own link and you couldn't respond to the main point you're missing- that efficiency is one of several factors involved, and does in no way give you a point that Solyndra is a bad PV panel. You say it is bad because you wish it were bad- it was just relatively expensive when its competition was selling similar panels at below cost.

Good luck using politics to discuss engineering- it only works with other naive people who share your politics. So much for talking China here.
 
"who else thinks that mcbrett and bronco should man up, do the honorable thing, and solve this like they do on texags by dodging a meet-up at a respectable Houston hotel parking lot, thumping their chests, bragging about their internet Jags (or Volts, in certain cases), and then claim their football and political supremacy for all to see?

and while they're at it, they could stray back to the original topic of oil sands and those pesky chinese". <<<In the groan made famous by Homer Simpson, DOH!!! Good one Dalhorn.
 
As to the OP, there are certain risks associated with China (or Chinese companies) buying up these reources. I really don't think it is ahuge risk, but China is different from a lot of countries.

China has demonstrated often enough that they will effectively nationalize any chinese business if they wish. If an American or European or Japanese company buys these assetts, the product will (in almost all cases) be sold to the general marketplace. That is how they make money. It is certainly possible that China will attempt to buy up large oil/gas assets and then simply ship the product to China and bypass the world market. This impacts everyone negatively.

Now, I believe that China has a right to do this. If they buy it, they can pretty much do what they please with it. But, the USA needs to make sure it doesn't happen too frequently
 
I get the point of your post - the sentiment of it - and see the bolded language with the tie-in to not getting Keystone approved. However, we have no national oil company. And with Asian companies largely lacking in oil reserves, this trend will continue. I've had some of my customers (domestic independents) either sell properties or their entire companies to a Japanese oil outfit, and then to a subsidiary of Samsung, which is a huge Korean conglomerate.

I think the article is incorrect when it says "Canada is increasingly looking to China to sell its vast oil reserves after the U.S. delayed a decision on the Keystone XL pipeline". I think the Chinese and other Asians will be moving to buy as much oil as possible, and will find willing sellers worldwide, regardless of what occurs with Keystone, more and more in the future.
 
McBrett-

Check your facts on China's coal. Although I doubt you care, since all you are doing is spewing liberal drivel.
 
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I have. Check your facts on China's demand- although I know you haven't since your only supplying supply side drivel. You see- if supply can't keep pace with demand you have a big issue. Maybe that's considered 'liberal' in your parts.
 
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