AA-S 2015 Fab 55

We have been a laughing stock on the field for more than a few years. A new coach not from an elite university took over. What do we have to sell them now??? School, facilities, promises to win again soon??? Come on, that's tying one hand behind our back.

Winning cures EVERYTHING!!! Just win and become relevant again and this will reverse itself immediately. These kids flip at the drop of the hat these days. Make at least a BCS bowl next year, and a top 10 2015 recruiting class is easy money. Just watch! Lord.
 
Brad, I really can't agree fully. There is a LOT to sell about our coach, but neither the university machinery, nor the fans, nor even LHN did one thing to create the right buzz. It was a failure of epic proportions that was something to see.

In fact, even the program he came from is not THAT unknown. If such a perception started, it is also the failure of a lot of people who were either clueless or didn't want to help the situation (most of them calling themselves UT "fans", I am sure). Meyer went to Florida from Utah State. Sumlin went from Houston. This is about the kind of move that top programs usually make, when they hire somebody who is already an HC. It is the BS people were creating about Saban and Jimbo and all that, which caused it.

If I were running the Texas PR machine, I would have got the twitter and facebook space filled with the below items, back in the first week of January.

1) "Charlie's UL team had only 14 broken tackles all year, leading all BCS qualifying conferences!"
2) "Charlie had 15 four-stars in the team that beat Florida with 55 four-stars in the biggest point-spread upset in BCS history!"
3) "90 of 95 players he recruited graduated at UL, going up from 50 in 4 years".
4) "Anyone remembers Charlie's D doing a number on Stoops and Bradford in MNC 2008?"
5) "UL led the country in 3rd down defense with 26.7% ???"
6) "How many coaches have been coordinators under Holtz and Meyer and asst.HC with Spurrier? - CS is da Man!"

You can guess on how many of those incredible facts are known to Texas recruits. Probably not even a couple of those. Heck, how many of you right here know them all?

That we didn't have the ability to start a buzz and help a new head coach who had to hit the road recruiting, was something to see. He did end up selling himself quite well even within 15 days, but the Alakas and Hendersons were so set to leavee by then.

We had Red McCombs saying Charlie would be good as a position coach, instead. It's somebody who hasn't been any less than a DC for 15 years (with 2 NCs to show too) that the old dude was yapping about.

The hole that the University apparatus (whatever that is) has created, with eminent participation from so many "fans", is such a problem for us. LHN hardly helps either, but that is another discussion.

I think Patterson did a great job in selecting JUST the right coach we needed. But he too has a lot of work to do to fix things, as does Charlie himself of course.

We "fans" have a duty to shut the hell up with all the negativity. No that we should not discuss the problems. We should, and steps need to be taken by UT and the coaches to deal with them, but we shouldn't be part of any negative buzz. There is no need for it, when we have a coach whose record is about as glowing as it really could get - in actually coaching and producing results.
 
Reality can sometimes be taken for negativity or orange lensed hype. No Texas fan I know wants anything but the best for UT. Reality in being the head coach at Texas means no excuses. I have had a few Managers that would rather spend more time on excuses why they couldn't get something accomplished than on getting the task accomplished. Those Managers did not last long.
Same with the HC at Texas. I don't want to hear the excuses, I want to see the results. If you can't sell UT to recruits, then you are in the wrong place. This thought process is not directed specifically at Strong, but rather at any HC hired at UT. Not interested in reliving McWilliams and Macovic, both had too much time as HC. You have to ACCOMPLISH winning and recruiting at a high level, that is why you are paid so much money.
Reality is that Strong has not yet coached a game at UT, and his performance has not yet been determined. His recruiting start is with the six recruits he was able to sign.
Time will determine how good he is. I am hoping he is very good.
 
But then again, reality is not just about what has NOT happened, but what HAS happened too.

CS's past record is also reality. There is nothing wrong in talking about it, as long as it is not any hyped up facts, and it is not selective facts that cover up blemishes (heck, it is tough to find much of a blemish in his past record, try as one may). Nothing orange-colored in that.

In fact, one can say that the past reality is more pertinent to talk about than the reality of what hasn't happened, which when stated in a manner as though it might not happen while past data shows it to have a high probability to happen, is nothing but negativity. It is not perceived negativity. It *is* negativity.
 
Mack needed to step down or be replaced in December of 2012, not 2013. That delay has the potential of really impacting us in 2015 and perhaps 2016. I hope not. But, we cannot change the past.

After reading the well expressed arguments about the LHN, I tend to side with the critics who believe that the network has been a net negative. Let me add, however, that had we been winning, it would have been a significant asset. And, it can be again.

If we have a "Strong" showing this year, which I would describe as a minimum 10 win season and we are competitive in the games we lose -- although I hope that we lose none, then the recruiting will take care of itself. Let me add that if we show a slobber-knocking defense, my guess if that star rated kids will want to be here. I think the cut off is nine wins, minimum, with the loses all being competitive.

A successful season will likely allay all of our fears and solve all of our problems. My take is that we have plenty of talent to be able to play with and perhaps defeat every opponent. For example, on D, I truly believe that we have four "possible" All America candidates, those being Reed, Brown, Hicks and Diggs. Certainly all conference. On O, there is also plenty of talent to compete, and compete very well. But we do have that huge question mark, at QB.

Our issue seems to be depth. If we do well in this campaign, I expect a strong 2015 class and, on the field in 2015, we may see more than a few true freshmen playing.

If you look at what Malzahn did at Auburn, it becomes apparent that almost anythhing is possible. I think that we have made a good choice as our HC, perhaps great. Time will tell.
 
I understand that there has to be a certain number of football games on the LHN. But the more we win, the less will be available. If UT had beaten BYU last year and was rolling, there is no way the Ole Miss game would have been on the LHN. The NMSU, North Texas, school for the blind games are good for the LHN. Who nationally or regionally wants to see them anyway except for Horn fans? Would you tune in to watch Alabama play Eastern Michigan unless you were a fan of either team? Texas is in good hands. I sure hope CS instills a better attitude in our players than what I am seeing on this board. We have talent. Lets see what CS can do with it. I am excited and expecting good things. I am not sure it will be instantly like some of you expect.
 
OK....my bad. I do think that is the first time a semi-good opponent was on the LHN. But, the LHN is a huge recruiting tool cause aggy said so. Thats why they (and missery) left, aint it????
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Ivan, there's exactly 2 of you that think Mack Brown is worth a f%#k as a football coach. Nice company.
 
^^^ Make that at least 3, if I was not the other one. He was a damn good coach. He made a lot of mistakes for 4 years at the end of 25+ years of a damn good career. Like, good enough for top-10 in wins in all-time college football history.

That is unless your "is" is an "is" and the "f%#k" is whatever needed to be UT's coach. He "is" not worth that amount of "f%#k" now.
 
Nobody would have done that right after playing an NC game and feeling that the freshman QB you just broke in might not even be bad. Had he retired after the Alabama game, he would have been such a great legend, but in about a year's time he would have come out of retirement and would be coaching Ohio State or Florida or USC. May even have done quite well, unlike the jaded period he had at Texas, with a new coaching staff, and every recruit and his uncle wanting to play for him at one of those top Univs.
 
3. Malik Jefferson | LB | 6-3/208 | Mesquite Poteet (5A) | Considering: Texas, Texas A&M, Alabama, others

5. Demarkus Lodge | WR | 6-2/187 | Cedar Hill (6A) | Considering: Baylor, Texas A&M, others (Has interest in Texas)(At one time was thought to be Texas lean)

6. Soso Jamabo | RB | 6-3/210 | Plano West (6A) | Considering: Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, others

8. Kyler Murray | QB | 5-11/170 | Allen (6A) | Considering: Texas A&M, others (Aggie legacy - short but damn good prospect.

13. James Lockhart | DE | 6-3/245 | Ennis (5A) | Considering: Baylor, Texas, others
 
When it was first announced, I thought LHN was a positive for recruiting as well. I switched from Direct TV to U-verse to get it last November and do enjoy the somewhat limited programming.

But, I now wonder about the benefit for recruiting. If a potential recruit is not from a UT leaning family or possibly has parents who do not wish to pay for the network, how are we helped?

I never got interested in last year's basketball team. I know they had a poor season, but because so many of the first 10 games were on LHN, I never got to know the players... could not tell you who was in the starting line-up. By the time they had games more widely broadcast I had no interest.
 
^^^ When I said "damn good coach", I did not mean damn good "X's and O's coach". Big difference. There is a lot more to coaching than knowing X's and O's. Nobody becomes top-10 all time in wins in college football history without being a damn good coach. He made a lot of good decisions for a long time, to get there. Good overall decision-making was what made him a "damn good" coach for over two decades. Poor decision-making is what caused his downfall for the last 4 years.

And, during the 6 year period of 72-9 record he had, VY played only 2 years. Are you saying that he and Greg didn't know what Colt and Jordan and Earl Thomas and others were doing too? Come on. If you are saying that without recruiting top-notch talent he couldn't have won... well duh, yes. Convincing all that talent to come to Texas and do their thing for such a long period was part of being a 'damn good" coach too.

If he had won 3 extra games over 158 in 16 years, he would have had 5 conference championship. Suddenly he would have become a "damn good" coach? He was never as good as Stoops, period. That is pretty much why he didn't win 5 or 6 conf. championships. Stoops will finish top-5 all time, if not better. Being worse than a legend makes him "not damn good"?
 
I think it will be better than it currently is. Time heals many wounds.

I recall when DKR stepped down that many were frustrated and ready for a change even though he had only had one bad season after a string of many conference titles. I don't remember there being the vitriol that was experienced the last couple of years with Mack.
 
Well, if Fred Akers had won 2 more games (the right 2) he would have had 2 national championships. Bottom line, he didn't win them. mack didn't either. I wasn't aware that Earl Thomas and those guys touched the ball on every (offensive) play. Wouldn't think greg davis cared what Thomas did with the ball. Eh ammased talent that coaches woulod kill for, and underachieved with it. Don't confuse being a great recruiter with being a great coach. The two are not mutually exclusive. long story short...thank God he is gone.
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Yeah, I think Brown was a great Coach and recruiter that won a lot of games and bowl games. But hey, he IS GONE.

Great recruiting does matter if you are going to win at a high level.

TCU/Patterson is a good example of "coach em up" without great recruits. Might work in a lesser conference like the Mountain West or AA conference.
TCU's last three seasons in the Mountain West before joining the Big 12 were 12-1,13-0 and 11-2 for a record of 36-3.
TCU's record after joining a BCS conference after two years is 7-6 and 4-8 for a record of 11-14.
 
TCU's QB for those years in the MW is now QB for the Bengals. I think Patterson without question would have contended for the b12 title with those teams that went 36-3.


I think he was a QB away the last two years. Sound familiar?
 
The highest one on the AAS fab-55 that has Texas in his list, 5-star CB Kendall Sheffield apparently reached out and called Charlie Strong, and was apparently very happy with the conversation - as per multiple pay site sources over the last couple of days. The coaches aren't allowed to call 2015 recruits till some day later, but recruits can call the coaches. There is also reports that his dad also has given some positive comments on Texas.

This is indeed good news, because many had considered him a heavy aggy lean and crystal balled him to the farmers. Apparently not anymore.

He is schoolmates with JW Ketchum who was very happy after the junior day, as our coaches told him that he could be a serious QB pick. So, these two could be an excellent package deal in the end for us. Reel them in, Charlie....

Just passing on the info.
 
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