A Shady Speed Trap First ...
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SubliminalHorn
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mishatx
1,000+ Posts
The sign that says the rules don't apply to me and it's ok to speed on long wide stretches of road even if people live along it and are trying to get in and out of their neighborhoods.
Or something.
Watch out at the north entrance to the Overland Park neighborhood - one motorcycle cop sits there about 15 days a month and it never takes him long to find someone to pull over. Easy solution, go 45, it only takes you 20 seconds longer to get from Dittmar to Wm Cannon at 45 than at 60.
Or something.
Watch out at the north entrance to the Overland Park neighborhood - one motorcycle cop sits there about 15 days a month and it never takes him long to find someone to pull over. Easy solution, go 45, it only takes you 20 seconds longer to get from Dittmar to Wm Cannon at 45 than at 60.
Jive_Turkey
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KaiserSoze
250+ Posts
Damned Speed Traps! They ARE sneaky, aren't they?
BTW, Wickums posted a hotlink to SpeedTrapAhead.org in an earlier post. It's a pretty new site that's all about speed traps. Actually, it's MY site; and, I appreciate the reference and all the recent visitors. If you haven't checked it out, please do so. I'd love to have some input, comments, and suggestions. Email me the location YOU see Speed Traps around Austin, and I'll add it to my "Austin Speed Traps" map.
BTW, Wickums posted a hotlink to SpeedTrapAhead.org in an earlier post. It's a pretty new site that's all about speed traps. Actually, it's MY site; and, I appreciate the reference and all the recent visitors. If you haven't checked it out, please do so. I'd love to have some input, comments, and suggestions. Email me the location YOU see Speed Traps around Austin, and I'll add it to my "Austin Speed Traps" map.
Statalyzer
10,000+ Posts
They used to trap people running red lights at riverside and I35. They would park a regular car on the median, with a cop just sitting there. He would radio to his buddies if someone ran it. I would actually like to see more red-light tickets, than speeding tickets. Running lights has gotten a little out of hand.
YuppiePrick
25+ Posts
So does the "homeless" cop get to keep all the spare change he collects or does that go to the department??
bighornfan32
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PoisonousNuts
< 25 Posts
By the "ornery cop" logic, what would stop him from just locking a speed into the RADAR or LIDAR gun at the beginning of his shift, and then showing it to everyone he stopped all day as the speed they were supposedly clocked at?
Why not take it one step further and say that unless they have a video tape of someone committing a violation, they can't take enforcement action?
In reality, for many reasons including the one above, it would prove nothing for the violator to see a number displayed on a readout.
In addition, in many cases, the officer doesn't lock a target's speed reading into the machine at all. It is much more important for the officer to maintain what is called a "tracking history", which means he monitored the target display during the entire track and can verify that the indicated target speed changed up or down as the audio tone changed (the Doppler signal pitch and intensity), and that observation correlated with his observations of the target itself (visual speed estimation). Those are all key ingredients in target identification, or, in other words, making sure you're tracking the right target.
So no, they don't have to show you a locked-in speed indication.
Why not take it one step further and say that unless they have a video tape of someone committing a violation, they can't take enforcement action?
In reality, for many reasons including the one above, it would prove nothing for the violator to see a number displayed on a readout.
In addition, in many cases, the officer doesn't lock a target's speed reading into the machine at all. It is much more important for the officer to maintain what is called a "tracking history", which means he monitored the target display during the entire track and can verify that the indicated target speed changed up or down as the audio tone changed (the Doppler signal pitch and intensity), and that observation correlated with his observations of the target itself (visual speed estimation). Those are all key ingredients in target identification, or, in other words, making sure you're tracking the right target.
So no, they don't have to show you a locked-in speed indication.
NCAAFBALLROX
1,000+ Posts
I can beat all of you with this one:
There used to be a tiny little blip of a town in Broward County that was on the Southwestern edge of Fort Lauderdale wedged between Fort Lauerdale & Davie; Andytown.
It was basically a trailer park situated on the North side of State Road 84 (these days, it's Interstate 595). SR 84 was a 2 lane road with ever increasing traffic loads as housing moved closer to the Everglades. It was nothing more than a glorified trailer park & this was long before the idea of a doublewide ever existed. "City Hall" was a trailer, too. They had 2 cop cars... or so you thought.
They would have a junker car parked on the side of the road with a tire missing; it was up on a cinderblock for that side of it or they'd simply have the hood up like it was dead. What you didn't know is the engine was running & A/C on (this is South Florida after all).
They would have a cop sitting reclined in the beater with a radar gun & a mirror so he could see up over the dash. He'd then pop up in enough time to get your speed, then radio it to the "station" & another guy would come running out of the trailer as fast as he could, hop in his ride & chase you down for the ticket.
Outside of minimal property taxes, that was their only source of income. Many people reported getting a ticket from a cop who had a napkin tucked into his shirt collar & chicken grease on the citation.
There used to be a tiny little blip of a town in Broward County that was on the Southwestern edge of Fort Lauderdale wedged between Fort Lauerdale & Davie; Andytown.
It was basically a trailer park situated on the North side of State Road 84 (these days, it's Interstate 595). SR 84 was a 2 lane road with ever increasing traffic loads as housing moved closer to the Everglades. It was nothing more than a glorified trailer park & this was long before the idea of a doublewide ever existed. "City Hall" was a trailer, too. They had 2 cop cars... or so you thought.
They would have a junker car parked on the side of the road with a tire missing; it was up on a cinderblock for that side of it or they'd simply have the hood up like it was dead. What you didn't know is the engine was running & A/C on (this is South Florida after all).
They would have a cop sitting reclined in the beater with a radar gun & a mirror so he could see up over the dash. He'd then pop up in enough time to get your speed, then radio it to the "station" & another guy would come running out of the trailer as fast as he could, hop in his ride & chase you down for the ticket.
Outside of minimal property taxes, that was their only source of income. Many people reported getting a ticket from a cop who had a napkin tucked into his shirt collar & chicken grease on the citation.
Yeah. There's a shittly little town in West Palm Beach. Lake Clark Shores. Glorified trailer park. One little tiny stretch of Forest Hill just west of 95. Most small towns in Palm Beach use the Sheriff's office. Not this place. All they do all day is sit there and wait for people to speed through their little slice of heaven. Always people hurrying to catch the light at the freeway, or coming off the freeway too fast.
They do the red light sting near campus now. They will sit either in a car on the bridge over 35 and radio ahead or they have a person sitting down.
There is a light pole and he sits behind it, drinking out of a bag. He has a radio sitting next to him out of view from cars. There are anywhere from 3 to 5 cops at the triangle on the NW intersection of Red River and MLK.
So many people run the red light and violate the No Right Turn On Red sign coming off the feeder road to MLK (turning right) that they are kept busy the whole time.
Another red light area lately is underneath the bridge at 15th and the Frontage Road. Cop sits under it and has full view of all sides of the intersection, particularly coming off northbound 35 headed to 15th then MLK. People have some speed on that stretch of road and push it. He is never there more than two light cycles.
There is a light pole and he sits behind it, drinking out of a bag. He has a radio sitting next to him out of view from cars. There are anywhere from 3 to 5 cops at the triangle on the NW intersection of Red River and MLK.
So many people run the red light and violate the No Right Turn On Red sign coming off the feeder road to MLK (turning right) that they are kept busy the whole time.
Another red light area lately is underneath the bridge at 15th and the Frontage Road. Cop sits under it and has full view of all sides of the intersection, particularly coming off northbound 35 headed to 15th then MLK. People have some speed on that stretch of road and push it. He is never there more than two light cycles.
NCAAFBALLROX
1,000+ Posts
1. That's "Canal" drive. You missed the "c".
2. I should clarify; it's high priced living there now... the arrow points to the old park which has since been mowed down in favor of higher dollar apartments or condos.
3. Edit on the name: Hacienda Village is the correct name. Andytown was about 20 miles further W @ the intersection of US Highway 27 & State Road 84... Andytown was really just the gateway / last stop before Alliigator Alley.
2. I should clarify; it's high priced living there now... the arrow points to the old park which has since been mowed down in favor of higher dollar apartments or condos.
3. Edit on the name: Hacienda Village is the correct name. Andytown was about 20 miles further W @ the intersection of US Highway 27 & State Road 84... Andytown was really just the gateway / last stop before Alliigator Alley.
Statalyzer
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DCLonghorn
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