A difference between Sark & Herman

SabreHorn

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I used to yell and scream at Herman because we would go hurry up offense, but Herman would substitute, giving the defense 20-30 seconds to rest and substitute. What is the purpose of "hurry up" if you give the defense nearly a minute to substitute?

It appears to me that Sark will go hurry up with no changes, thus not allowing the defense to substitute.

Small thing perhaps, but I like it. :hookem2:
 
Another difference:

With Herman, and even more so with Charlie (and even sometimes with Mack) could you guess with a pretty decent % accuracy what play we were about to run just by seeing how we lined up and who we put in motion? IMHO, we were way too predictable on O for the last 2 1/2 regimes.

With Sark's offense, I can't tell at all what play we're about to run based on formation, motion, etc.
 
Chop said:
Another difference:

With Herman, and even more so with Charlie (and even sometimes with Mack) could you guess with a pretty decent % accuracy what play we were about to run just by seeing how we lined up and who we put in motion? IMHO, we were way too predictable on O for the last 2 1/2 regimes.

With Sark's offense, I can't tell at all what play we're about to run based on formation, motion, etc.
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^^^ My thoughts too, chop. Sark's up tempo calls have been unpredictable and for the most part successful. Refreshing to say the least.
 
Agree. One of the main reasons for going hurry up is so defense can’t sub and get their personnel on the field they want for certain situations and to also keep fresh players in there. Herman was never a good game day coach. Sark seems much better at managing games.
 
mmsnake said:
Herman was never a good game day coach.
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IMHO, we've arguably been missing that on O since Mackovic. We may finally have an offensive mastermind equal to, or better than, Mackovic.

(yes, I know Mackovic didn't care enough about D, and his personality was ummmmmm, errrrrrrrrrr, wellllllllllllll, ... a bit difficult ... but that man really knew Offensive Xs and Os, and he could call a good game on the Offensive side of the ball. I think we may finally have that again.)

IMHO, the QBs when Greg Davis was OC were our winning edge on Offense, not Greg Davis himself.
 
I noticed same thing Phil. Often a successful play is followed by the same play which I think he (Sark) uses to set up what he wants to run next.
 
With Herman, and even more so with Charlie (and even sometimes with Mack) could you guess with a pretty decent % accuracy what play we were about to run just by seeing how we lined up and who we put in motion? IMHO, we were way too predictable on O for the last 2 1/2 regimes.

With Sark's offense, I can't tell at all what play we're about to run based on formation, motion, etc.
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I hope this is a long-term trend and not just the fact that we haven't gotten used to this offense yet. I couldn't predict Mack/Greg nearly as much early on as I could later (well except that in his first year I could predict "give it to Ricky" a bunch and mostly be right :D ).
 
While we are comparing, it would be interesting to compare several items for Sark's first 4 games against any of mensa's first 4 games in any of his 3 seasons:

1. Delay of game penalties.
2. False starts.
3. Inexplicably stupid personal fouls.

I'm too lazy to research hermie's numbers, but Sark's numbers in these categories are very low.
 
Texas is just well coached. They are favorites to win the Big 12. My favorites. Sark should stay a long time. Best hire since Mack Brown or DKR! So far that is!
 
In the Major/Chris/Vince/Colt era, our offense was incredibly predictable; "We are going to have our All-Conference quarterback throwing to a receiver running a post pattern, two receivers just past the first down markers on each side of the field, or handing off to a great running/blocking back behind that quarterback. So, there you go. Good luck stopping it".

A little like Ou in the 80's and Nebraska in the 90's; 50 points and 600 yards a game, while running the same 5 plays for more than a decade.

There is a lot to be said for having superior athletes. Most of us remember Mack saying, "We decided to let Vince, be Vince". Two Rose Bowls and a National Title later, it proved to be a "great coaching" decision.

My take on Sark, is that he didn't end up as Nick Saban's OC because he couldn't manage a game, an offense or a system. And based on what he is seeing on the field (that he didn't see in camp), is that he will "Let Casey, be Casey".

:cowrose:
 
rick mueller said:
While we are comparing, it would be interesting to compare several items for Sark's first 4 games against any of mensa's first 4 games in any of his 3 seasons:

1. Delay of game penalties.
2. False starts.
3. Inexplicably stupid personal fouls.

I'm too lazy to research hermie's numbers, but Sark's numbers in these categories are very low.
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And there is hard evidence so far to back this up...............so far averaging 4.5 pen per game for right at 32 yds.

In 2020 we averaged 7 per game at 77 yds.............playing more disciplined ball is a sign of good coaching.
 
rick mueller said:
While we are comparing, it would be interesting to compare several items for Sark's first 4 games against any of mensa's first 4 games in any of his 3 seasons:

1. Delay of game penalties.
2. False starts.
3. Inexplicably stupid personal fouls.

I'm too lazy to research hermie's numbers, but Sark's numbers in these categories are very low.
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You forgot inexplicably stupid flexing poses after making routine defensive plays (often 10+ yards downfield), but maybe that is more on the DC than on Sark.
 
Dadgum. ... am I the only one heartbroken cause I never see a well set up bubble screen? Lost art...
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Finally, a coach that sees what I see - that the bubble screen has not worked for us since Kwame Cavill was here.
 
What Chop said. I think on 2nd-and-short or 3rd-and-1 for all of Herman's tenure, we knew it was going to be Sam on some kind of solo mission to "save" us, regardless of whether it would work or not. But the way that we haven't relied on the QBs to do pretty much anything in those situations has been very refreshing.

That swing pass on 4th down against Tech was beautiful... not so much because of the result because very few backs can do what Bijan can do... but because it caught Tech off guard. We could be like Old Dominion or Eastern Michigan or whoever, and catching the opponent off guard will ALWAYS yield results, no matter the matchups. TH wanted people to know how "sure" he was in Sam so we rammed him into the defense like one of those medieval logs used to push giant doors in. Opponents always saw it coming. Sark doesn't feel like he has to do that.

That said, I also think TH really opened it up against CU in the 2nd half of the Alamo Bowl. Whether that trend would have continued into 2021 if he still had the job will forever be a mystery.
 
I am sure the players like that there are no more wet kisses behind the ear from their HC on game day.
That alone probably cost us 10 points every game.

Can you imagine going out there to whoop some *** and make the other team quit. But this egghead makes you submit to putting his lips on you right beforehand.

Seriously, what a weird ************ TH was.
 
Chop said:
Another difference:

With Herman, and even more so with Charlie (and even sometimes with Mack) could you guess with a pretty decent % accuracy what play we were about to run just by seeing how we lined up and who we put in motion? IMHO, we were way too predictable on O for the last 2 1/2 regimes.

With Sark's offense, I can't tell at all what play we're about to run based on formation, motion, etc.
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Winner Winner and some of the defensive and offensive formations were head scratchers to me and the talking heads. Loved it.
I remember attending games during Mac' tenure where the guy who sat next to me would call the play with complete accuracy.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
You forgot inexplicably stupid flexing poses after making routine defensive plays (often 10+ yards downfield), but maybe that is more on the DC than on Sark.
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I actually was going to include that, but CRS set i while was I typing and it didn't make it to the post. I was also going to include that the flexing was not diminished when we were well behind late in the game.
 
Horns11 said:
That said, I also think TH really opened it up against CU in the 2nd half of the Alamo Bowl. Whether that trend would have continued into 2021 if he still had the job will forever be a mystery.
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Won't be a mystery to me because considering the scenario requires me to imagine TH still being the coach here. And I'm not willing to do that.
 
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