2024 GOP Primary

Horn6721 said:
Drafting 12 yo is like you said an almost non-existent possibility. In fact it is more of an impossibility than drafting an 18 yo.
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I understand that, but they're both extreme improbabilities. One is about as likely getting struck by lightning twice, and the other is about as likely getting struck be a meteorite. Both are far too remote to be the basis of creating a broad right to vote.
 
I get your point but with all military branches suffering major shortages in enlistment and with things heating up world wise a return to the draft is actually not that far fetched.
 
Hahahaha, had to laugh Horn thinking something like; not that far fetched to be catering to the LGBTQ and drag queen circuit. Dear God.
 
Mr. Deez said:
He is great. I have to admit that I've never seen him "cheery." It would help his chances if he could show a lighter side at times - not on an issue like this but just in general.
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That's one of the reasons why he can't win the primary. He just can't connect with people. Zero charisma. However, he's still the best republican out there.
 
Garmel said:
That's one of the reasons why he can't win the primary. He just can't connect with people. Zero charisma. However, he's still the best republican out there.
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Well, I hope he gets over that. In the meantime, he should get his wife out there for him. She's more personable. (And yes, she's hot.)
 
Mr. Deez said:
Well, I hope he gets over that. In the meantime, he should get his wife out there for him. She's more personable. (And yes, she's hot.)
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Always a chance one these prosecutors puts Trump in jail over nonsense so DeSantis might win by default. About all of the other people running in the primary are not presidential material in the least.
 
I'll take effective leadership over charisma 8 days a week.

In fact, to me effective leadership = charisma. Have to get DeSantis across the primary finish line somehow. Dems want Trump again and all the imaginary fbi fed issues that go along with his ****** personna that repels the middle
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
I'll take effective leadership over charisma 8 days a week.

In fact, to me effective leadership = charisma. Have to get DeSantis across the primary finish line somehow. Dems want Trump again and all the imaginary fbi fed issues that go along with his ****** personna that repels the middle
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I agree for my own vote. In fact, I'm suspicious of politicians who seem overly friendly and charismatic, because I know it's often ********. However, I also know that in order to win (especially for a Republican to win), a candidate has to make large numbers of gullible, ignorant suburban women feel good about voting for him. If a candidate seems overly "mean," they won't feel good about voting for him, and he'll lose. That sank Bob Dole, John McCain, and Romney. Dole and McCain had the personalities of an angry Walmart greeter. Romney felt like a calculating corporate villain. Those weren't fair characterizations of them, but that's how they came across. So, of course, those women voted for the seemingly nicer Democrats who made them feel good.

One thing that Desantis has in his favour is that though he doesn't come across as nice, he's not a wuss and does come across as strong (unlike Dole, McCain, and Romney) and a protector. I think that's why Trump did better with women than many expected. Is it enough to compensate for his general crankiness? Maybe. I hope so. Either way, I'd put that smokin' hot wife of his out there more.
 
Mr. Deez said:
I agree for my own vote. In fact, I'm suspicious of politicians who seem overly friendly and charismatic, because I know it's often ********. However, I also know that in order to win (especially for a Republican to win), a candidate has to make large numbers of gullible, ignorant suburban women feel good about voting for him. If a candidate seems overly "mean," they won't feel good about voting for him, and he'll lose. That sank Bob Dole, John McCain, and Romney. Dole and McCain had the personalities of an angry Walmart greeter. Romney felt like a calculating corporate villain. Those weren't fair characterizations of them, but that's how they came across. So, of course, those women voted for the seemingly nicer Democrats who made them feel good.

One thing that Desantis has in his favour is that though he doesn't come across as nice, he's not a wuss and does come across as strong (unlike Dole, McCain, and Romney) and a protector. I think that's why Trump did better with women than many expected. Is it enough to compensate for his general crankiness? Maybe. I hope so. Either way, I'd put that smokin' hot wife of his out there more.
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Race is over if DeSantis wins nomination:

 
DeSantis will need to mobilize the Republican base to get out and knock on every door in this country to hand out fliers outlining the crimes of the Gambino, uh I mean biden crime family.
 
The alternatives to Biden in the party are too depressing for most Dems to think about. How to get the blacks, Hispanics, unions and socialists behind anybody else. The horror of it all

Biden’s selling card is that he beat Trump once and he is not Kamala or any of the other whackos.

that is it

the GOP problem is that too many people just hate Trump. And I don’t mean they just dislike him. Republicans in large numbers too

My brother voted for him twice because he was an R and there was no D he could stomache

Says he will sit the next one out if Trump is in

but the trumpoholics are unlikely to get behind anybody DT doesn’t like. As in anybody but himself

Next year is going to be an ungodly mess

Think 1968
 
huisache said:
The alternatives to Biden in the party are too depressing for most Dems to think about. How to get the blacks, Hispanics, unions and socialists behind anybody else. The horror of it all

Biden’s selling card is that he beat Trump once and he is not Kamala or any of the other whackos.

that is it

the GOP problem is that too many people just hate Trump. And I don’t mean they just dislike him. Republicans in large numbers too

My brother voted for him twice because he was an R and there was no D he could stomache

Says he will sit the next one out if Trump is in

but the trumpoholics are unlikely to get behind anybody DT doesn’t like. As in anybody but himself

Next year is going to be an ungodly mess

Think 1968
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So which party will have riots at their convention? The Dems are returning to Chicago.
 
In 1968 there were riots in Miami and Chicago

people forget about Miami for some reason

what if Biden and Trump are not the nominees?
I like Manchin but that won’t happen

the best nominee the Dems ever had won on the 45th ballot and got elected

one can dream
 
huisache said:
In 1968 there were riots in Miami and Chicago

people forget about Miami for some reason
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I had no idea there were riots in Miami. They're never talked about. I suspect that the Chicago riots were more disruptive to the convention, and there were criminal charges brought against high-profile defendants (the Chicago 7).

huisache said:
what if Biden and Trump are not the nominees?
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If Trump is the GOP nominee but Biden isn't the Democratic nominee, it won't matter. Dems will unify around a rhinoceros turd to beat Trump. If the GOP nominee is somebody else, Dems will be less unified all the way around. How unified the GOP will be will depend on how Trump behaves. If he "blesses" the nominee, the nominee will be in great shape. If he is tepid or half-assed, the nominee will have trouble. If Trump actively opposes the nominee or tries to run as an independent, the GOP is screwed.

huisache said:
I like Manchin but that won’t happen

the best nominee the Dems ever had won on the 45th ballot and got elected

one can dream
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Manchin has cast far too many pro-life votes to be the Democratic nominee.
 
I like this guy so far.
I wish he had a chance. He reminds me on an Indian Barack Obama, young, charming, smart, energetic, charismatic, but, from what I've gleaned so far, shares my beliefs.
Vivek Ramaswamy




His 10 Truths:
  1. God is real.
  2. There are two genders.
  3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
  4. Reverse racism is racism.
  5. An open border is no border.
  6. Parents determine the education of their children.
  7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
  8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
  9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
  10. The U.S. constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

    Also Pro-life.
 
I like Ramaswamy as well. I don't agree with him on everything, but he would be a huge upgrade over what we have. I would love to watch debates between Vivek (R), RFK Jr (D), and Dave Smith (L).
 
Hollandtx said:
His 10 Truths:
  1. God is real.
  2. There are two genders.
  3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
  4. Reverse racism is racism.
  5. An open border is no border.
  6. Parents determine the education of their children.
  7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
  8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
  9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
  10. The U.S. constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.
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I can't find a single thing wrong with his Ten Truths. I really like his focus on Number 10 - wish the Dems would realize that.
 
Mr. Deez said:
I guess they're not counting Obama because he was mixed race? If that's the case, it's kinda silly, because there's a good chance that Scott has a white person in his ancestry, whether he knows it or not.
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What it means: Scott is a historic candidate. He would be the first black president in American history, and the first president of color whose ancestors were brought to the United States as slaves.

Context: Barack Obama, the Netflix producer and former president of the United States, was born to a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya. He was the first mixed-race president in American history.

• Obama has also been described as America's "first gay president."
 
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