2018 Recruiting - Football

Joe Fan said:
top 5 for TE Mustapha Muhammad
(obligatory: Where is aggy?)

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I don't know what the CB's are saying but by watching that video it appears to me it's LSU. He slipped and said "LSU has always been my favorite team" and then corrected himself and said "one of my favorite teams."
 
From Joe Fan's link above ^

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I used to get interviewed like that all the time when I was choosing my school except there were hot chicks everywhere instead of pudgy news guys, you know the scene
 
QB commit Cameron Rising told OB the Oregon rumors are untrue. He says he did visit Oregon when he was committed to ou, but he hasn’t been back.

As soon as Rising first committed to Texas, he immediately began recruiting JUCO TE Dom Anderson. Rising said he knew Anderson would be picking Texas over ou, Oregon and Louisville.
 
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Joe Fan said:
Antwine has formally decommitted from Ole Miss
And an Ole Miss mod has given him a crystal ball to Texas (now 5 total CBs, all to Texas)
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The Antwine situation apparently has changed from our perspective since the commitment of Keondre Coburn. And it looks like the recruiting gurus have caught on as his CBs are beginning to change. So the idea that he will be the next commitment is probably now inaccurate.

Most people have been targeting three 2018 commitments for the DL. However, with Coburn now in, we might only take one more. If so, with Cobun a NT/3-tech, it means the one more 2018 will be at the 4i. The two leading candidates are Bobby Brown and Ronnie Perkins. If they both want to commit then this seems like the most likely way we get back to 3 DLs in this class. The 2019 DL class has more top end guys so if we take two this year it opens another spot for next class

These guys are apparently our remaining 2018 DL possibles --
In-state: Brown and Chatman
Out-of-state: Perkins, Antwine, Carson and Trout
Next tier: Avery, Dotson and Landry
 
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X Misn Tx said:
that makes sense.

any thoughts on the OL strategy for this class?
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No, and with Jean Delance now announcing his transfer we need to add several this class. And then more next year. I am very concerned about our depth at OL. I think we have some great guys, but we need more bodies.
 
Joe Fan said:
We have been in contact with some JUCO OLs
Two are Badara Traore and Anthony McKinney

http://247sports.com/Player/Badara-Traore-88962/

http://247sports.com/player/anthony-mckinney-46036883
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It would be nice to get a few more in. I am a big believer that the success of a season rides largely on the health and quality of our OL and DL. As a former OG I am sure I am a bit biased, but a great line can make a decent back look extraordinary, and a second or two more to throw gives a slow deciding QB just that much longer to think. (not a comment on our RBs or QBs, just a general observation).
 


Here is TFB write up on this QB
Not the average situation

Tanner McKee: Currently, Texas has two QBs committed in the 2018 class in Newbury Park (CA) Cam Rising and Newcastle (OK) Casey Thompson. But that hasn’t stopped them from pursuing Centennial (CA) 5-star QB Tanner McKee.​

As most know, McKee plans to take a two-year Mormon mission following his HS graduation so he’s technically a 2020 recruit. He doesn’t have to sign on NSD, and by the time he returns from his mission his NLI will be void. But pretty much every other HS athlete that has done this has stuck with the school they signed with. The main schools after McKee right now are Texas, Alabama, Washington, BYU, and now Stanford. The Cardinal was the last school McKee was really hoped for an offer from; so they are a school to watch.

Obviously BYU is a major threat as they have a strong Mormon presence on campus. Then you have Alabama, Texas, and Washington. Right now McKee has some visits locked in. He will visit BYU on September 9th, Texas on October 7th, Washington on October 28th, and Alabama on November 4th.

McKee said told me the Texas trip will be an official visist, as will the rest of the visits with the exception of the BYU game. He told me that he would officially visit BYU after the season. It looks like Stanford is the one he hasn’t set up a visit to yet.

Right now I would put Stanford and BYU ahead of Texas, but he isn’t close to a decision and he has some legit interest in Texas. – (Andrew)
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THEU said:
It would be nice to get a few more in. I am a big believer that the success of a season rides largely on the health and quality of our OL and DL. ...
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Agree with you. I been singing this song for a long time. Unfortunately for Herman and the rest of us, 2018 is a down year in-state in the trenches. 2019 looks much better, esp on the DL. It's also interesting to note the best two OLs on our current roster were not highly rated. Connor Williams and Zach Shackelford were both 3-stars. And the third best might be Jack McMillion who I think was a 3-star DL
 
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Joe Fan said:
Agree with you. I been singing this song for a long time. Unfortunately for Herman and the rest of us, 2018 is a down year in-state in the trenches. 2019 looks much better, esp on the DL. It's also interesting to note the best two OLs on our current roster were not highly rated. Connor Williams and Zach Shackelford were both 3-stars.
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I think sometimes that OL is a place where bodies have to develop. Shack is an extremely talented and well rounded kid, as well as being very intelligent. I was in Belton for many years and my friend's son played HS ball with Shack and is a good friend of his. I have been a fan of his for a long time.
But sometimes the grading in HS for OL is about who is big now. Some guys take longer to develop and to get their size, strength, and technique. In HS sometimes big guys look great as they play against smaller DLs, but technique is key. TH has talked more about pad level than any HC in recent memory. It speaks well of him IMHO.
I think many 3*s at OL are real diamonds in the rough.
 
Joe Fan said:
Fowler, Elliot and Delance were 3 of our top ranked 2016 recruits. Now all 3 are gone.
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Should tell you something about Strong's recruiting. Some of us on this Board have been questioning his talent and coaching evaluation abilities for some time.
 
THEU said:
I think sometimes that OL is a place where bodies have to develop. ..... I think many 3*s at OL are real diamonds in the rough.
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One of my platforms, going back 3 coaches now (lol), has always been that we oversign WRs and undersign OLs. Why not get a few extra OLs instead of those 2 or 3 or 4 extra WRs who never see the field? Redshirt them, let them eat right, train and grow. Combine this with coaching and scheme continuity and, at a minimum, you would have some mature, trained backups at all OL positions, which is nothing to sneeze at.
 
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ViperHorn said:
Should tell you something about Strong's recruiting. Some of us on this Board have been questioning his talent and coaching evaluation abilities for some time.
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His poor assistant coaching calls were immediately self-evident from that initial group. And his recruiting style was tremendously frustrating. I thought he was unwilling (or perhaps he was simply unable) to take full advantage of all the baked-in natural positives UT offers. I never got this about him. And what Herman is doing right now in recruiting only makes Strong's shortcomings in recruiting while at Texas stand out more.

On the other hand, I think we have no choice but to concede he put alot of high draft picks into the NFL, especially from Louisville, a mid-major basketball school. So, its a mixed bag on Strong for me. I get more angry at Steve Patterson than I do Strong. Hopefully Patterson got one out of two with Shaka.

Here is a list of Strong draft picks, all were coached by him, most but not all were recruited by him

South Carolina
(2003, 2): DT Langston Moore, 6th round, Bengals; LB Corey Jenkins, 6th, Dolphins
(2004, 2): CB Dunta Robinson, 1st, Texans; DB Deandre’ Eiland, 6th, Vikings

Florida
(2005, 2): LB Channing Crowder, 3rd, Dolphins; CB Reynaldo Hill, 7th, Titans
(2006, 2): LB Jeremy Mincey, 6th, Patriots; CB Dee Webb, 7th, Jaguars
(2007, 7): DE Jarvis Moss, 1st, Broncos; S Reggie Nelson, 1st, Jaguars; DE Ray McDonald, 3rd, 49ers; DT Marcus Thomas, 4th, Broncos; DT Joe Cohen, 4th, 49ers; CB Ryan Smith, 6th, Titans; LB Brandon Siler, 7th, Chargers
(2008, 1): DE Derrick Harvey, 1st, Jaguars
(2010, 5): CB Joe Haden, 1st, Browns; LB Jermaine Cunningham, 2nd, Patriots; DE Carlos Dunlap, 2nd, Bengals; LB Brandon Spikes, 2nd, Patriots; DB Major Wright, 3rd, Bears

Louisville
(2011, 3): DB Johnny Patrick, 3rd, Saints; RB Bilal Powell, 4th, Jets; T Byron Stingily, 6th, Titans
(2012, 1): DE Greg Scruggs, 7th, Seahawks
(2014, 4): S Calvin Pryor, 1st, Jets; DE Marcus Smith, 1st, Eagles; QB Teddy Bridgewater, 1st, Vikings; LB Preston Brown, 3rd, Bills
(2015, 9): WR DeVante Parker, 1st, Dolphins; T Jamon Brown, 3rd, Rams; G John Miller, 3rd, Bills; LB Lorenzo Mauldin, 3rd, Jets; LB Deiontrez Mount, 6th, Titans; CB Charles Gaines, 6th, Browns; DE B.J. Dubose, 6th, Vikings; S Gerod Holliman, 7th, Steelers; TE Gerald Christian, 7th, Cardinals
*2015 was Louisville school-record number of players drafted
(2016,1) DT Sheldon Rankins, 1st, Saints

Texas
(2015, 5): DT Malcom Brown, 1st, Patriots; LB Jordan Hicks, 3rd, Eagles; CB Mykkele Thompson, 5th, Giants; CB Quandre Diggs, 6th, Lions; TE Geoff Swaim, 7th, Cowboys
(2016,1): DT Hassan Ridgeway, 4th, Colts
(2017,1): RB D'Onta Foreman, 3rd, Texans
 
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Joe Fan said:
His poor assistant coaching calls were immediately self-evident from that initial group
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That's because NO ONE WOULD WORK FOR HIM! In spite of the worst contracts with the most egregious, near criminal terms in the history of The University, NO quality assistants would accept the jobs. The coaching community knew what Strong was and wanted no part of the great Powers experiment. I said it then and have not seen anything to change my mind.
 
SabreHorn said:
That's because NO ONE WOULD WORK FOR HIM! In spite of the worst contracts with the most egregious, near criminal terms in the history of The University, NO quality assistants would accept the jobs. The coaching community knew what Strong was and wanted no part of the great Powers experiment. I said it then and have not seen anything to change my mind.
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The one guy we all liked -- Wickline -- was a disaster for the OL
Look at that depth chart
 
Joe Fan said:
The one guy we all liked -- Wickline -- was a disaster for the OL
Look at that depth chart
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Huh? Most of those guys are wickline guys.i count 7, 8 if you include buck major who has had injury problems.
 
mchammer said:
Huh? Most of those guys are wickline guys.i count 7, 8 if you include buck major who has had injury problems.
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I meant the one incoming assistant we all liked at the time
But look at the depth chart^^ -- who are our OTs after CWilliams leaves next year? Whose fault is that?

Remember December 29, 2014?
The Texas Bowl
18 rushes for +2 yards total
18:50 time of possession
An all-time worst performance by a Texas OL?
 
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Joe Fan said:
Fowler, Elliot and Delance were 3 of our top ranked 2016 recruits. Now all 3 are gone. The positive spin is that it opens the door for a larger recruiting class....
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There are also rumors of DB attrition on the way
We seem on our way to a 25-man class
 
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