'10 recruiting for OU

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It seems like we are wining all the head to head matchups with OU this Jr year recruiting season . Why? Have the Ncaa sluths been snooping around OU recently? Was there some "issue" that has reared its ugly tooothless head for the tooth deprived sorts located in the Indian territories? ?

hhhmmmmm? What to think, what to believe. Maybe it is all happening just because OU sucks?

Really, what is the dirt on OU gang?
 
Visor boy didn't offer.
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OU always starts slow and then builds at the end. They'll get theirs. Still a very nice start. Land 3-4 more of the right guys and this will be another top 5 class.
 
Yep, the okies will get some nice players out of Texas, but not the haul Stoops might have been expecting. There was all this talk about how the Metroplex and north Texas were zero-u recruiting territory, but Mack is proving that ALL of Texas is UT recruiting territory.
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realistically, they could land nelson and wilson, maybe jeffcoat. i think they'll pull one of the better rbs from texas too. they also recruit nationally, and will be much willing to wait it out for a 5 star stud like tai-lor jones than mack will. that being said, it's nice that a lot of the time scouting the state of texas to this point has been in vain, with mack's ridiculous hit rate at jr days.
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Stoops is on to Mack. His is currently offering all of their 2nd choices hoping Mack will take the bait and fill up with these. Then Stoop will swoop in and clean up on all his preferred choices. Looks to be genuis.....
 
I think out staff certainly out hustled OU for many of these early recruits. I think 11 of our verbals had offers from OU, which is amazing. Give Mack and crew some credit. But be careful to shortchange OU. A lot of the top talent in TX is still uncommitted. I expect when the dust settles very few will be making fun of their class. We'll see.
 
I agree with HornLiving. We have got an awesome class thus far even if we don't get any more players. Coach Brown likes to get them to agree early and it has worked for him. Still there are lots of great players in Texas and OU and the others will be able to get some before it is over but I feel we are going to be pleased with this class.
 
Another point is that many of us including myself have said to trust Coach Brown and the staff. This is because they have earned it and produced on the field. After all we have had ten wins the past 8 years and won an NC and should have had a second shot last year but for the system. In the other 3 years (Coach Browns first 3) we had 9 wins each season. And it must be remembered that the year before Coach Brown came we had to endure a 4 - 7 year.
The Coaches have earned our trust. I imagine at least 95% of the schools would love to have our won-loss record the past 11 years.
 
Honestly it has been several years since OU has been a serious player for the talent in Texas that we are recruiting.

I am not sure anyone went to OU over Texas other than McFarland and there were at least a dozen UT guys that OU offered. That isn't a stretch, it may have been more.

Now I do think there are enough great players in Texas High Schools to make OU very competitive with everyone including us.

Mack and Co are playing their cards right in recruiting IMO. We have awesome resources, much more than OU. That is why we are currently kicking OU hind end in recruiting. More importantly it is starting to show on the field consistently.

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May it be that the OU bowl failure and Texas' recent success in Dallas is affecting recruiting?

OU could still take 2-3 of the top 5 but USC seems more likely for Jeffcoat and Matthews and LSU for Seastrunk.

OU had offers in to 11 of the 19 that have committed to Texas so far.

This is an extremely deep class coming out next year. OU should still be able to get a top 10 class.
 
tholly is right! That Stoops is a smart one. I can just imagine the following conversation with his staff as he tells them:

"We don't want Adrian Phillips or Connor Wood. So what we will do is offer them so Texas will offer and when they accept that is scholarships that they have used and when they use them up we can get the guys we really want.."

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OU will pull in a nice haul, as they almost always have. Even the '09 class wasn't a 'bad class,' despite what some of my brethren might claim.

UT is doing what they do. They get the kids early who really want to go to UT. This isn't anything new, really. Of the kids committed, the only 2 it appears our staff were putting the full-court press on were Wood and Harris.

Yes, several others had offers, but that doesn't mean the OU staff was placing a high importance on all of 'em, and certainly not less than a month after the 2009 class signed their letters of intent. They offered out of the new trend that has taken hold of college football recruiting: the arms race.

Kids are deciding earlier and earlier. Not offering a kid in the spring oftentimes means not having even a puncher's chance at securing any interest at all. When you're recruiting a relative wasteland of potential prospects, as OU does inside its own state, it makes the 'token offer' even more important. I'm not saying that was true for all of the 11 kids OU offered who chose UT, but I think it does play a part. Taylor Bible was offered b/c he's a great prospect, not simply b/c Stoops felt he had to offer to keep up with UT and LSU. The same holds true for Dixon and Espinosa. Both deserved offers. Many of the other kids, I had no clue who they were when their names appeared on your verbal list. And I follow this stuff pretty closely, too. Our coaches knew, as the offer would indicate, but I'm still not sure you can say the OU staff was 'outworked' for several of them.

It's MARCH 2nd. Unlike most major programs, UT is only recruting a handful of kids in the CURRENT CLASS for 10 months of the year. How can the OU staff have been outworked when they have been busy trying to sign kids for the '09 class, not more than 1 month ago? It's very rare that OU gets a lot of early committments. We have 3 for 2010. That is about par for the course, really. Meanwhile, Mack and staff have had more time to devote attention to some of these kids in the '10 class, given that their '09 class was almost full by LAST MARCH. Sure, Mack will continue to recruit kids like Seastrunk and Jeffcoat. He'd be an idiot not to continue to do so, but he also isn't scrambling during the fall to plug holes very often, either. Combine this with the inherent resource advantage UT holds to begin with, and you've got a recipe for the recruiting climate UT and OU wok inside.

It's nice work, when you can get it.
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I have been thinking about Mack and his recruiting with regards to all these early commits, and there really is some serious advantages to getting this many athletes to verbal. If we only have a few more players to go after, this gives the coaches TIME.

Time to...

-watch and study film for this upcoming season's gameplans.

- Evaluate talent for the 11' class.

- Attend events like basketball games, banquets, speaking events, etc. which makes Texas look like a more relaxed and fun environment.

I could go on and on. Time is something that College coaches don't get much of given the spectrum of recruiting. Do you think that Sherman over at aggy would love to have 1) the talent that Mack has signes and 2) the time? Or any coach for that matter?
 
That was one hell of a spin job OUE.

The fact of the matter is that UT has completely dominated OU with the '10 Texas recruits to this point. OU will get their share of talented players out of Texas simply because the pool is so deep this year, but we have won every head to head battle thus far. Further, out of our remaining targets I only see them being a player for Corey Nelson (OU lean) and one of Wilson/Jeffcoat.
 
Like others have said, I think the RRS is huge to the recruiting battles between UT and OU. The tide seems to have turned for a while. Medium game Bob will always get a good class, but he is just not winning as many recruiting battles against Texas

I also think that Stoopsie is throwing a few more hail mary's in recruiting ( JUCO's, players that are too big of outlaws even for the SEC, etc ). I may be wrong as I am not al that knowledgable about the individual kids, buts thats just my impression
 
I get what engineer is saying, and basically agree. This is an unusual year in that UT and the paper clips are both recruiting a bunch of the same players. Generally, we get ours while o-u targets largely a different group of players in Texas.

UT should be the big dog in recruiting in Texas, and like engineer, it's hard for me to understand how a head coach here doesn't recruit well. (In Mackovic's case, he turned off both Texas high school coaches, and UT supporters and former athletes and coaches, a sure way to professional suicide.) engineer makes the point that in a lot of cases, his favorite team is competing more with aggy, Tech, LSU, and others for Texas players than with UT. That's a pretty valid point.

Mack is a brilliant recruiter, and has been able to take advantage of the fact that UT can get so many early verbals. Most schools, o-u included, don't have that luxury, especially in Texas. That gives our coaching staff the time to scout next year's class, work on generating even more good will with Texas high school coaches, and generally multi-task in ways not afforded to other coaching staffs recruiting in Texas. There are just a few other schools (USC, Florida, Penn State, etc.) with the advantage in their states that UT has in Texas.

If I'm reading what engineer says correctly, he's not saying Stoops didn't really go after the ones who have commtted to UT...just that it's too early for Stoops and staff to have identified the "must haves" from the "like to haves" with the exception of a few like Wood, Jeffcoat, Wilson, etc. If that's what he meant, I wouldn't disagree.
 
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