Worst decade in history of Texas football??

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2010-2019 is one bowl game away from being over and regardless of the result in that game it will go down as one of, if not the worst decades in the history of Texas football.

Consider:
No conference championships for first time ever in a decade;
Never sniffed being part of the national title race;
Only one top ten finish in the national rankings;
2 coaches fired and a third on the hot seat by the end of the decade;
A losing season to start the decade;
3-8 against OU; and
2-6 against TCU and 5-5 against Baylor.

Only the 30's and the '80's come close with a single conference championships in those ten year periods. I cant speak to the 30's but the 80's were when I came to football consciousness and so that is one I think is arguably in the debate as the worst decade ever. There were more losing seasons in the 80's because of the complete collapse of the program at the end of the Akers era and during the McWilliams era (my college years sadly enough). Three losing seasons in '86, '88 and '89 give the '80's an edge in the which was crappier debate over just one losing season in the 2010's (Edit I completely blanked out the Charlie era so actually 3 losing seasons in 80’s v 4 in the 2010’s). Texas legitimately chased a national title down to the final day during that decade in '83 and had two top five finishes in '81 and '83. Both decades saw a program that was mired in coaching changes and mediocrity and a fan base that was torn apart. I cringe at what social media would have been like at the end of the Akers era if it had been around. After arguably the second best decade in Texas history from 2000-2009 (bested only by the '60's) the last ten years have been a long walk in the wilderness.
 
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Three losing seasons in '86, '88 and '89 give the '80's an edge in the which was crappier debate over just one losing season in the 2010's.

Texas had 4 losing seasons this decade: 2010, 2014, 2015 & 2016. All three of Charlie Strong’s seasons had UT finishing with a losing record.
 
Texas had 4 losing seasons this decade: 2010, 2014, 2015 & 2016. All three of Charlie Strong’s seasons had UT finishing with a losing record.

I completely blanked on those. I try to forget the Charlie era entirely. Man there really is no contest this past decade is the worst ever.
 
I completely blanked on those. I try to forget the Charlie era entirely. Man there really is no contest this past decade is the worst ever.

Yeah, I can identify. Think about this: As bad as it has been, UT’s decade 2010-2019 was still far more successful than OU’s 1990’s. So you got that going for ya :-)
 
010-2019 is one bowl game away from being over and regardless of the result in that game it will go down as one of, if not the worst decades in the history of Texas football.

Consider:
No conference championships for first time ever in a decade;
Never sniffed being part of the national title race;
Only one top ten finish in the national rankings;
2 coaches fired and a third on the hot seat by the end of the decade;
A losing season to start the decade;
3-8 against OU; and
2-6 against TCU and 5-5 against Baylor.
Consider:
No conference championships for first time ever in a decade;
Never sniffed being part of the national title race;
Only one top ten finish in the national rankings;
2 coaches fired and a third on the hot seat by the end of the decade;
A losing season to start the decade;
3-8 against OU; and
2-6 against TCU and 5-5 against Baylor.
^^^Wow. I woke up feeling good, really good about yesterday's win. But this info puts things in perspective. So now I'm :facepalm:
 
The 1930s were actually worse. We had 5 losing seasons, a three year streak of 2-6-1, 2-6-1 and 1-8, and SMU, TCU and A&M all won a national title. We also lost to Kansas in 1938. This decade is similar with us overall performing worse than TCU, A&M and Baylor. This decade did have the objectively and statistically worst coach in Texas history though in Charlie Strong, so there's that. This was certainly the second worst decade in Texas history. I'll also add the 1930s had the Great Depression and the rise of fascism on top of bad Texas Football.

In 1940, Dana X. Bible turned things around going 8-2. Texas never had a losing season in the 1940s, won multiple cotton bowls, multiple conference titles, had multiple 10 win seasons, won an orange bowl and won a sugar bowl. Hopefully Herman can turn it around in 2020 as well.

By the way, Akers' success at the start of the 1980s actually saves it from being as bad as the 1930s or 2010s. I will say the 80s and 2010s were similar in that two of our best coaches fell off and we starting wandering the desert on coaches.
 
So why is this important? It is not like anyone can go back and change history, is it?

Every season there is no NC is by definition a failure, is it not?
 
No, a failure if you don’t win a championship? If the fan base truly believed that, Henry Winkler would be the only Coach willing to take this job!
 
What all this shows is it takes a long time to rectify such a catastrophe that was Strong. We need multiple winning seasons and positive nfl draft seasons. That is what will get the burnt orange back into cat bird seat with the highly desired recruits.
Herman, with all his faults is trying to achieve this. He wants Texas to be ‘It’ again, among the top of the heap for all recruits. Now it is not, but if you listened to the post game interviews from the Seniors you would see he’s getting that buy in. They aren’t his recruits so their devotion says a lot imo. The proof will be in how many suit up for the bowl. That will tell me if it’s real or not. But one can not argue Herman sells the brand hard and I like that.
 
The lost generation. Texas has been the victim of a flawed coach hiring process. Hiring up and comers and paying them like established Power 5 proven coaches. Paying an up and coming coach $5 million to $6 million a year for 5 years guaranteed is simply wasting the school’s money. Someone should be fired for that. Most good coaches in Power 5 conferences don’t make $5 to $6 million a year with a guaranty of 5 years. I personally would not hire an up and comer for the Texas job, but if I were to do so, I would pay a highly inventive based salary with a shorter term (3 years at most). 3 years is long enough for a coach to feel like he has enough time but not enough for a coach to get comfortable. If I were CDC, I would start strategizing and laying the ground work now for hiring a proven Power 5 coach if Herman is not able to turn Texas into a contender in the next year or two. Start talking to boosters, start informal meetings with potential candidates, start setting the ground work for the money you will need to hire such a coach. Hopefully Herman turns it all around, but if he doesn’t I wouldn’t wait and be forced to hire the latest flash in the pan coach.
 
I had to live through Texas football from 1984 to 1994.

That trumps this decade. I'd even push that to 1997, at least this year we didn't have to live with Rout 66. That was the second worst day of my life as a sports fan. The only thing that trumps that was watching the Oilers lose to Buffalo after being up 32-3.

The only saving grace was the years we had Peter the Great and our 4 game win streak over blowu. Thank you Keith and Kerry Cash. And a huge thank you to Stony Clark and James Brown. They made those years survivable.

We have talent
We have money
We have support

We need coaches to be great.
 
Yea I well remember 84’ to 97’.

we had two that’s two good seasons in 19 years. 90’ and 95’. 94’ was pretty good at the time I felt like we were national champs.

I have stuck in there with Texas all these years even thru many losing seasons. We’re getting better, our win percentage is up 11% since TH took over. We had no depth to survive injuries with. Beck is gone and next year we get a new OC. If it’s a good hire we could easily win the conference with our talent. I believe TH will be here a long time. Better days ahead!
 
We are mediocre most of the time. Royal had a run as did Akers and Mack but they also had some train wrecks. I met Strong just after we hired him and thought we are in for a rough ride. Nice guy but my junior high coach was more intelligent

my thought on TH is that he is wrapped too tight.
 
What all this shows is it takes a long time to rectify such a catastrophe.

Not to be salty, but... Bob Stoops disagrees.

John Blake & Howard Schnellenberger was 4 years of bigger catastrophe than Texas. No reason, in my opinion, for Texas to have to wait longer. It’s a great program. Blue bloods can be resurrected faster than non-Blue Bloods (though Matt Ruhle would disagree).

Just my 2 cents.
 
There is one more year in this decade.
The decade is 2011-2020.
We have one more season to improve the record.
 
John Blake & Howard Schnellenberger was 4 years of bigger catastrophe than Texas

Thanks, DDS, for putting our "demise" in perspective.

We have never had anyone as stupid as Blake, and I am not aware of having a coach showing up drunk at a BMD's home and insulting the family; a family that has buildings named after them.

While Patterson was proof of Bill Powers overwhelming stupidity, he was better than Donnie Duncan, and never embarrassed the school the way Duncan embarrassed OU and the Big XII.


Side bar, I warned Deloss about Duncan when he was given the job in Las Colinas.
 
Nebraska was Big 12 champions 1997 and 1999, I believe my statement was correct, yours is not.
Will go with AB on this one....they held on for a little bit but their power was sapped once they were into the B12 for a while.....prop 48 and one scholly per county went away? Rumors, I know...
 
I will say the 80s and 2010s were similar in that two of our best coaches fell off a
????

You classify Akers as one of UT's best coaches???

I'm sure he was a good guy, but Akers was a disaster. University politics put him in the job ... from projector operator under Royal ... and it took a decade of almost mediocrity to force change.

These statements have been made in the past, and I'll admit I was too young to realize ... but I distinctly remember Pops talking about attending those Longhorn Club meetings where he'd hear Darrel say "Run that back, Freddie"

perhaps I'm falling into the Dad=God psychosis ... and that when Dad was in those meetings, Akers was also 10 years younger than when he found himself succeeding DKR ... but that's my outlook. Akers' era was not good as UT's Head Football Coach ... but even HE had sense to keep Mike Campbell and that's why we played for a championship in '83. The offense was anemic after Earl graduated even by 3 yards/dust cloud standards.
 
WOW!, just ******* WOW! I hope you are being facetious

First off, Mike Campbell NEVER worked for Fred. Leon Fuller and Mike Parker did a superb job with the defense. In fact, one of the biggest mistakes Fred made was trying to appease DKR by making David DC, when Mike Parker should have been made DC.

Fred had the second best winning percentage, but better yet, he was over 80% against ranked teams.

The 83 team (all his recruits) still holds the record for most players going into the NFL that year - 23. Hell, a DT from Pflugerville who didn't play ten plays in five years, stuck with the Steelers for four years.

The way he was treated when he was fired was beyond low rent and a total embarrassment. Yet, Fred has never said a negative word about The University The guy is total class.
 
No, a failure if you don’t win a championship? If the fan base truly believed that, Henry Winkler would be the only Coach willing to take this job!
Careful what you say, AC...

By the way, any word on if we are looking at Henry?
 
First off, Mike Campbell NEVER worked for Fred. Leon Fuller
my mistake. thanks for the correction. I meant Leon Fuller (same guy Mackovic fired after his first year)
I know you like you some Fred Akers and as I've said, I don't doubt he's a good person.

He wasn't a good head coach and the 80s proved it. Numbers of wins doesn't mean championships. Now I know that was also the period aggy was cheating and largely getting-by with it .... but my goodness.
 

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