Will we chant 'Big 12!' after we beat Arky?

How 'bout just keep it simple: "The Eyes of Texas."
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When the Big 12 has a 73% winning percentage in BCS games....

When the Big 12 leads the nation in ranked teams in the final AP/USA Today polls over the previous 8 years......

When the Big 12 has back to back NC's.......

When the Big 12 leads the nation in OOC winning %, to include Bowls, over the previous 8 years......

When the Big 12 leads the nation in Bowl appearances, to include 8 in the previous season.....

When the Big 12 has more players on NFL rosters than any other conference....

When the Big 12 brings home 12 of the most prestigious individual awards in one season (Heisman etc..).....

When the Big 12 leads the nation in attendance....

When the Big 12 leads the nation in revenue.....

You should, and would, start taking a little pride in your conference. But as is, none of the above holds true so you may want to stick to chanting something specific to your school. Or, just save all of that energy and root for a team from your conference that will actually win the division.
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What hacked me off was ESPN announcers blathering during a key Big 12 victory last week (CU over #18 W.Va.) about how "vastly superior" the SEC is to every other conference.

Look at the rankings, guys. The SEC is strong, but no moreso than Big 12.
 
Whocares,

The SEC is a great football conference. Nobody sane could argue otherwise. Whether half the players who don those uni's actually go to class in that conference would create more scandals and debate than the current political climate...and I spent several years in Tuscaloosa....I know. It is a different world where they truly believe if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.

But let's talk some trends here. You can't deny that the Big XII has closed the gap...by a BUNCH. And success will breed more success. Look at recruiting. The SEC has done a great job getting kids from Texas, and combining that with the large group of kids from Florida that go SEC and the ability to accept partial qualifyers helped. But more and more kids from Texas are looking at the Big XII north schools as options if they don't get offers from their first choice...Chase Daniel of Mizzou, the perfect example. The number of Texas kids on KU, Mizzou, Nebraska, Colorado etc. are at an all time high and increasing while the number of Texas kids going east is slightly decreasing. It isn't going to show up as much this year to the detriment of the SEC, and maybe it never will as long as the "Big name teams" in the ACC continue to suck and don't get their share of the Florida and east coast kids. So...what happens to the SEC west if more Texas kids go north as opposed to east?

First off, LSU and Arkansas have to start playing 7 on 7 football unless they change. Have you looked at their rosters? What if they had 50% fewer texans? The quality of the top kids from Louisiana is awesome, but the state just doesn't have the numbers to support those teams and Ole Miss and Miss St. to keep them at their current quality levels. So where do they start to look for talent? Further east...like Florida, further watering down the overall talent depth in the SEC.

It is already happening. The more kids in Texas see that they can go to a top 10 team in the Big XII even if Texas or Oklahoma didn't offer instead of having to go to the SEC, the more it will happen and so on....


You have lost the monopoly on the whole "waahh we have to beat each other up, so it isn't fair" argument. Outside of Arkansas, who has the schedule of the century, which SEC team would rather navigate the following schedule without a blemish than their own?

vs. Oklahoma #2
vs. Iowa State
at Oklahoma State
at Nebraska
vs. Mizzou #6
at Texas #7
vs. Texas A&M
at Texas Tech #10

Currently Okie State and Nebraska are in the others receiving votes category.

Who gets this little charm of a task? Baylor.

The answer of who runs this table in the SEC? Nobody

BTW the Cotton Bowl is 5-5 over the last 10 years.

There was once a time that you could line up the top 12 teams from each conference and outside of OU, Texas and the annual assraping Nebraska would give Florida every bowl season, you could legitimately argue teams 4-9 were better in the SEC. Not any more. Right now you could line up 1-12 on each side and probably call each game a pick'em.

deny that?
 
If you want to talk tough conference schedules, why not look at our own? If CU takes care of business this week, they just might be ranked when we meet 'em next week. That would give us 5 ranked opponents (out of 8 total) in our conference, including all 3 of our North opponents. Are any of the contenders in the SEC going to claim a tougher conference slate?
 
anhyzer, to answer your question, Arkansas definitely has more on their plate.

#9 Bama
#7 Texas
#4 Florida
#15 Auburn
#5 LSU

and Tulsa, currently at #32 and will more than likely be 8-0, Top 25 come Nov, plus a trip to USC, Miss St., and home with Ole Piss.

But I still believe that if the Big 12 were as successful as the SEC, or if the current success continues, Texas fans, along with other Big 12 fans, will start to take a pride in conference that hasn't been there so far.
 
it must suck to be a piggy in the sec...no old rivals...no tradition in the conference...no real relevance in the national scene but for two or three anomaly seasons over the last 20 years and one transcendent player. the last coach was a blowhard that should have been run out of town on a rail after the egregious way he handled the mustain deal. the new coach is a lying, me-first piece of no class excrement whose karma alone should keep him from success.

plus, you're likely to be related to any random coed you meet (not that they care about such things).

if i were a piggy, you can bet your happy hindparts i'd buy into the sec-pride thing...it's the only thing they've got.
 
Might want to read my post again, Careless. Arkansas is definitely not a contender in the SEC. Obviously it's easier for a bottom-feeder to run into more ranked teams since they aren't themselves one. Furthermore, Texas is not part of their conference schedule.

And I would happily dispute that Arky's schedule is definitely harder than UTs. It's debateable, but there's nothing definite about it at all.
 
ahhh yes.. when you are perpetually the 98 pound weakling in the family, you blather on like a petulant child about, "well my daddy can beat up your daddy."
 
Who was Florida and LSU living vicariously through while chanting SEC, SEC, SEC after winning their NC's?
Who was Bama living vicariously through while chanting SEC, SEC, SEC after stomping Clemson? Georgia over ASU?

You are sadly mistaken if you think conference pride in the SEC is limited to likes of Vandy and Kentucky. Your comment was absurd to the point that you appear foolish.

IF your conference was worth bragging about, or if you could even win your own division, you too would have a little pride but it's easy to understand why you don't.
 
It makes sense to me if I was a Texas Recruit. If OU and Texas don't come knocking, I'd rather go to a Big 12 school, where I'd have the chance to play in my home state at least once a year, rather than going to the SEC where no one from my town would ever get to watch my games.

If I'm a north school, that's all I have to say. "Hey, you can play for a top 10 school, and look here, don't forget we got that game at A&M this year, so you'll get to play in front of some family".
 
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