Why the team is looking forward to Spring Practice starting

Austin_Bill said:
Fear the Baptist Ninjas, they are sneaky and will jump you the moment you try to dance.
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Dion,

As a Bible totin' Baptist, I must insist that you censor the last word in Bill's post. Such evil and vulgar language should not be tolerated on HornFans, even if I do personify .his post
 
SabreHorn said:
Dion,
As a Bible totin' Baptist, I must insist that you censor the last word in Bill's post. Such evil and vulgar language should not be tolerated on HornFans, even if I do personify .his post
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Yeah I thought the d-word was a little too much there but I guess that’s what the world is coming to these days
 
Something from TFB about a possible change in philosophy on spring practices --

A source close to the team said while the workouts remain tough, they are significantly less extreme when compared to last year’s offseason workouts.

The source said the new staff is still in the process of getting acclimated with the current roster, however that’s not necessarily the reason for a lighter load on the workout front. According to the source, health and injury prevention is the key reason for that.

Obviously, Texas was plagued by numerous injuries all season last year, and the source said they believe the new workout program is set to keep players healthy in the long-term rather than beating up the body before spring football.

Also worth noting that the source said all current early enrollees have held their own so far in the workouts as well.​
 
It would seem new schemes would be the most important part of spring training this year. How to get receivers free and how to change blocking schemes when blitzes and stunts occur, Etc. Receivers must be taught how to find space and not Defenders.
 
BurntOrangeLH said:
It would seem new schemes would be the most important part of spring training this year. How to get receivers free and how to change blocking schemes when blitzes and stunts occur, Etc. Receivers must be taught how to find space and not Defenders.
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Teaching them how to run routes is a big step in that direction. I can't think of a single receiver coach we have ever had that has been effective at teaching rout running.
 
Joe Fan said:
The source said the new staff is still in the process of getting acclimated with the current roster, however that’s not necessarily the reason for a lighter load on the workout front. According to the source, health and injury prevention is the key reason for that.

Obviously, Texas was plagued by numerous injuries all season last year, and the source said they believe the new workout program is set to keep players healthy in the long-term rather than beating up the body before spring football.
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My opinion is that Herman has an issue with toughness, he wants to be seen as a tough guy, and in doing so he does a lot of stupid stuff. Most is harmless like the sledge hammer to the lockers, but when you want to prove your toughness by over working your team, it leads to serious consequences.

I think we are lucky we didn't have a situation like Maryland had with someone dying. It's a lazy form of training. When I say lazy, I mean lazy on the coaches part for not doing his homework to come up with an effective training regiment for peak performance. It's not about working these kids so hard they get hurt, it's about working effective so that they peak at the right time.
 
Austin_Bill said:
Teaching them how to run routes is a big step in that direction. I can't think of a single receiver coach we have ever had that has been effective at teaching rout running.
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The Shipley brothers, the Cash Brothers, BJ Johnson, Mike Adams., Eric Metcalfe, Kwame Cavil, Wayne McGarrity, Quan Cosby and Roy Williams all say HI!

You will have to research their coaches.
 
Did the previous coaches also teach them how to come off the field so angry that they push & shove the coaches, including hitting them and getting in their face so loud I could almost hear it in section 106, row 7 in The Cotton Bowl?

Granted much of that was frustration over the choice of QB.
 
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BurntOrangeLH said:
The Shipley brothers, the Cash Brothers, BJ Johnson, Mike Adams., Eric Metcalfe, Kwame Cavil, Wayne McGarrity, Quan Cosby and Roy Williams all say HI!

You will have to research their coaches.
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Out of all those guys, the only ones that were good rout runners were Cavil, Ship, Quan, and McGarrity. I personally know Keith and Kerry and Johnny Walker, none of them were super great rout runners, Walker was probably the best of the 3. Keith and Kerry were just really big targets. Roy, BJ and Sloan were no better than any of the guys we had this year. Just because someone is productive doesn't mean they are great rout runners. Baby Ship was one of the better rout runners we ever had, but you never know it because of the QBs we had throwing to him.
 
BurntOrangeLH said:
Open is being open. Does not matter how one achieves it.
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<shaking head>

Actually it does. The biggest knock on Duverney by NFL Scouts is that he is a terrible rout runner. A guy can get open with his size, or his speed, but a good rout runner can get open by his ability to be exactly where the QB thinks he will be. A good rout runner makes the QBs job much easier because the QB knows where to put the ball and exactly where that WR is going to be. This is what made Shipley so good, he was always where he was supposed to be.

A poor rout runner might get open but he isn't always in a place where the QB is expecting him to be or where the QB can get him the ball. This is when passes are incomplete or interceptions happen.
 
Joe Fan said:
Something from TFB about a possible change in philosophy on spring practices --

A source close to the team said while the workouts remain tough, they are significantly less extreme when compared to last year’s offseason workouts.

The source said the new staff is still in the process of getting acclimated with the current roster, however that’s not necessarily the reason for a lighter load on the workout front. According to the source, health and injury prevention is the key reason for that.

Obviously, Texas was plagued by numerous injuries all season last year, and the source said they believe the new workout program is set to keep players healthy in the long-term rather than beating up the body before spring football.

Also worth noting that the source said all current early enrollees have held their own so far in the workouts as well.​
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If this is true, it would seem that our much lauded S&C coach is actually figuring things out as he goes.
 
Austin_Bill said:
The biggest knock on Duverney by NFL Scouts is that he is a terrible rout runner. A guy can get open with his size, or his speed, but a good rout runner can get open by his ability to be exactly where the QB thinks he will be. A good rout runner makes the QBs job much easier because the QB knows where to put the ball and exactly where that WR is going to be. This is what made Shipley so good, he was always where he was supposed to be.
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Yes, this really explains his horrible year last year. No separation and never where he was meant to be.

Any citations from all those "NFL scouts?"
 
I have played many, many hours of football back in my day. I loved throwing the ball and catching the ball. Myself and others were always working on making defenders think we were going one direction on our routes and then planting a foot to go another way. Right at that moment when the foot is planted and the cut made is when the receiver is most open and that's when the ball should be thrown. It's about timing. It's not rocket science but it is about practice and trust and a good rapport between QB/Rec. It's all about selling one way and cutting the other way. So I kinda don't understand not being a good route runner especially if a person is fast (and I wasn't) unless the receiver is lazy and doesn't want to do the extra subtle body language to confuse the defender. I had a lot of confidence in catching the ball and was often in that zone where I knew the reception was a done deal before the ball got there. This is why I love Duvernay. I can relate.
 
I played CB and I agree rapport, trust between QB/WR is more important than just route running.
A dual threat QB who still looks downfield to a WR group he knows and trusts.......deadly. Sam is good at that, best since Colt McCoy. I could never cover long enough to overcome the above scenario. And that was never route running.
 
You have to remember these people downgrade a QB if his hands are too small (Burrow) or if he is over 6'5" (Herbert).

The NFL scouts/coaches think they know how a receiver is supposed to perform. Any receiver that doesn't work a route the way they want is labeled as a poor route runner regardless if the receiver catches everything that is thrown at them. The fact that a receiver can get away with lax routes in college holds no water with the NFL people.
 
Detective Shilala said:
If this is true, it would seem that our much lauded S&C coach is actually figuring things out as he goes.
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S&C Coach has very little to say about what goes on during practice or in games since doctors give the clearances. Let's see the injury list mid-to-late October before making judgments on the mental capabilities of the S&C Coach.
 
ViperHorn said:
You have to remember these people downgrade a QB if his hands are too small (Burrow) or if he is over 6'5" (Herbert).

The NFL scouts/coaches think they know how a receiver is supposed to perform. Any receiver that doesn't work a route the way they want is labeled as a poor route runner regardless if the receiver catches everything that is thrown at them. The fact that a receiver can get away with lax routes in college holds no water with the NFL people.
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The "downgrade a QB if his hands are too small (Burrow)" is interesting. What exactly does this mean? Not the top quarterback in the draft?
 
CreakyHorn said:
The "downgrade a QB if his hands are too small (Burrow)" is interesting. What exactly does this mean? Not the top quarterback in the draft?
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Probably not. Seems the smaller the hand the further back on the ball the QB holds the ball. Drew Brees has basically the same size of hand.
 
CreakyHorn said:
The "downgrade a QB if his hands are too small (Burrow)" is interesting. What exactly does this mean? Not the top quarterback in the draft?
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If it's me doing the drafting I would have absolutely no concerns about the size of Burrow's hands. He is a proven commodity.
 
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