Why Hasn't BO Condemned Christian Church Burnings

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President Wishy Washy took a break from golfing and released a tepid statement last week, condeming the violence in Egypt. The statement seemed to mostly focus on the raids by the military against the Islamists. He canceled joint US-Egypt military exercises (ooooh, that'll hurt 'em).

Noticeably missing was any condemnation, or even mention, of the burning of as many as 50 Coptic Christian churches by the "peaceful" Islamist protestors. The Muslim Brotherhood persecuted the Christians when they were in office and then vented their rage on the Christians when they lost power. I guess the Coptic Christians don't fall into any politically correct group that The Left gives a crap about. If they did, maybe then BO would give a shiite.
 
He obviously supports the burning of Christian churches.
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Why would he? As the world's most visible Muslim, it would be hypocritical and could get him "called on the carpet".

Then again, as a career politician, do you really expect him to do anything of substance other than take the cash and benefit his special interests? Not terribly unlike every other career politician including Bill Archer and Governor Goodhair.

We need a constitutional amendment that requires all elected officials to be employed in the private sector for 5-10 years before serving in public office. Then slap term limitations on each office and limits on years in all offices by one slimeball. Include no benefits, no retirement, no insurance.
 
Don't expect anything from Obama on church burnings until Christians capitulate on gay marriage.

That's the way he rolls.
 
Obama could care less about the Christian church burnings, just as he did not care about a white kid beaten severely in a school bus or 4 Americans murdered in Libya.
 
Remember, we are not a "Christian nation". Why should anyone over here care about those Jesus freaks?

And btw, Time has an editorial declaring Egypt doesn't matter anymore which is akin to defending the massive fail that is Obama's foreign policy towards Egypt.

Now back to my watching the new Miley Cyrus video. Just tell me who to vote for in 2016.
 
I wonder if Obama thinks the Suez canal is on the U.S. gulf coast?
 
How often do these discussion turn out to be a complete waste of time? Are you truly open-minded about objectively studying these things, but meh – I got some free time. And I know most of you are open-minded.

You are Obama. If you had the choice:
1. Attempt to build support amongst conservative white Christian southerners by specifically condemning the Christian civilian murders and Christian themed property that was destroyed.
2. Condemn all civilian murders. Don’t promote the Christian deaths/destruction as more significant. Don’t give the Muslim Brotherhood more fuel to the jihadi fire. If Christians are mentioned, Al Qaeda and others could use the emphasis on Christians as proof that their religion is under attack by the US.

The President chose to do option 2. I think it’s the right decision politically and diplomatically. I see option 1 doing some potential harm, and I don’t see the specific condemnation of Christian based destruction as helping sway any white Christian southerners over to being a Democratic voter in future elections. Option 1 is a no win for Obama.

Perhaps even morally wrong using option 1 just to get political points domestically while inflaming radicals.
 
Gadfly,

Option 2 sounds like capitulating to AQ. A leader should do and speak up for what he knows is right.

A sincere CinC, as opposed to a designing one, would be a breath of fresh air.
 
Interesting and yet unconsidered point, texas_ex2000.

So you would suggest that we truly are a theocratic based nation built on Judeo/Christian virtue? I understand many agree. The history that I know may not agree with that, but I understand we can make either point by cherry-picking historical facts and spinning. Either way, a fair point to suggest.

I do not believe we are a Christian nation at all (we may very well have a Christian majority - I don't know but assume that's true), so I don't think it lacks sincerity or shows weakness for the President (head of the State) to be secular in his statements.
 
I didn’t consider another point you suggested, texas_ex2000.

“Doing what is right”. Now – I assume you are a Christian, and as a Christian, your morality is based on biblical teachings. Your “what is right” is based on what the bible tells you is right. In this way, you are not a moral agent. God decides, you obey. So for Obama to defend Christianity is “right” based on your faith. As you can see, we could likely never see eye-to-eye on this one point my friend, but I respect your faithful stance.
 
Surprised you didn't also mention George Washington who I think we could all agree was a Christian. I didn't suggest you couldn't prove the point without a selective discussion.

If you want to suggest the country was defined before 1776, this country was founded on greed (1607). Pilgrims came a little later (1620).

I'm sorry, but I don't think this argument will be very productive for either of us, and as you suggested, it's skirting the main topic. There's no USA without the Enlightenment. Even if it could be possible, we wouldn't have been backed by France going broke unless we were an idea of the Enlightenment.
 
I'd suggest a reading of "The Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine (a best seller during its day). Paine was a heavy influence on Franklin, Jefferson, Madison, and George Washington. You could even read some John Locke if you were really interested in getting back to origins.

As an educated board, I don't need to point out the primary authors of the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence and how these authors are mostly associated with deism.

Or you can base your conclusion on a traditional holiday established by Rome centuries before, or a 2nd holiday with a colorful history in it's own right (not a Federal holiday until Lincoln). Or we could bring up Halloween and suggest that its popularity as proof America is founded by pagan devil worshipers.
 
I'd like to thank the sophisticates on this board who can peer into Obama's thoughts and public pronouncements and divine malicious intent like a prosecution psychiatrist.

And the impact that an Obama condemnation would have on church burners is no doubt incalculable. You know, if we can just get Obama to tell dark-skinned or Muslim people to be nice, then I'm sure the Limbaugh crowd and conservative Christians would reciprocate by asking light-skinned people of Western religions to be nice.

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While I think the point is probably overblown, the frustration is that there is a double standard in play. Gadfly's point about the option of "not pouring gas on the fire" is ridiculous in light of the fact that this strategy has never been put in play in other tragedies. The president has had no issue denouncing other acts of violence, and certainly he has been particularly vocal about acts of discrimination against minorities and the gay community in other countries. And that's certainly not a problem. The issue is that the perception is that he simply does not consider the persecutions of Christians to be a particularly pressing issue. In all fairness, our nation in general has been incredibly silent on that issue - it's not just him. In this country, the people who typically protest abuse and injustice are just not conditioned to see Christians as an oppressed group - even though they very clearly are in many parts of the world.
 
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