why does pelosi care about obama capture now?

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general35

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Here’s Nancy Pelosi from a press conference on September 7, 2006:

[E]ven if [Osama bin Laden] is caught tomorrow, it is five years too late. He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But, in fact, the damage that he has done . . . is done. And even to capture him now I don’t think makes us any safer.

And here’s Nancy Pelosi yesterday:

The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida. . . . I salute President Obama, his national security team, Director Panetta, our men and women in the intelligence community and military, and other nations who supported this effort for their leadership in achieving this major accomplishment. . . . [T]he death of Osama bin Laden is historic. . . .
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staying partisan even as it applies to mass killers of americans. stay classy nancy.
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indeed. Pretty ******.
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Politicians rely on Americans having short memories. Fortunately, there is video/audio and the internet.
 
Problem with having lawyers in government. They have no real conviction. They can sell either side of the argument.
 
I think she even called Bush and Clinton to thank them for their efforts while in office. I think that is a nice thing for her to recognize, so props to her for that.
 
"to capture him now I don’t think makes us any safer....The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida"

what she really meant to say was his death makes us safer and is more significant than a capture.
 
in that vein, i also think it was a classy thing for Obama to invite GWBush to the visit at Ground Zero on Thursday. I also think was classy for Bush to politely decline.

Agree, Yo....just read an article on that.
 
I don't care about Pelosi one way or the other, but where is the contradiction?

I do appreciate that general35 doesn't appreciate the irony of him looking for a partisan peccadillo and then condemning someone else for being partisan. Hauling the buckets is a never ending job, I suppose.

Thanks for keeping your eye on the real enemy, general35! You're the great American we all need in these times.
 
the contradiction is in the content and the context. during the bush administration, he was opposed at every turn in regards to the so called "war on terror." that is fine, i do not have a problem with it. the pelosi statement from 2006 in indicative of that. she did not consider the capture of obl a big deal, in fact, when she made the comment, the context was that bush's search for obl was a waste of time and resources as she was vehemently against our actions in the middle east. add to that the threats of bringing charges against bush and his cronies for war crimes when left office and impeachment while he was in office. Holder in on record as to saying he would look into and investigate the matter. you had democrats wanting to bring court martial charges against millitary personnel that might have hit a terrorist in the stomach. if that is your position, fine. my point is you cant have it both ways.

we flash forward 5 years, we have a new administration in office and obama orders an execution of obl. information now indicates that he was unarmed and he was executed in front of his family. again, i have no problem with it and think it was a good thing but the same people that were wanting to bring war crimes for rough interrogation techniques against ksm are fine with being executioner in this case. to me, there is no difference between obl and ksm, they are the same. according to holder, the bush actions were unlawful, but this one is. pick a freaking side. we are on the same team and to be partisan on the issue, as the democrats were for 6 years or so is truly disgraceful.
 
Meanwhile, on the other side of the street:

GWB then (March 13, 2002)

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that concerned about him."

Now:

Bush called the operation a “momentous achievement” that “marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001.”

“I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude. The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.”



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I do appreciate that general35 doesn't appreciate the irony of him looking for a partisan peccadillo and then condemning someone else for being partisan.
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there is a big difference between a dude on a message board being partisan and the third highest ranking member of government who is supposed to represent the best interest of all americans.
 
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that concerned about him."
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again, different context. bush, in his usual poor choice of words, was deflecting criticism for the inability of his administration to capture osama bin laden. tensions were still high in this country shortly after 9/11. again, this is indicative of the lack of suppport the administration had.
 
well back in 06 when she was so dismissive of getting OBL she was correct about this
" And even to capture him now I don’t think makes us any safer. "

As every Obama offical is telling us now it is not a matter of IF the radical muslimsi will retaliate but WHEN. So Obama's actions have made it more dangerous for us when according to Pelosi even in 06 OBL couldn't do anymore damage

So if back in 06 it didn't make a chit if we took OBL why did all of a sudden it become so important?

The worms just keep on turning
 
general,

Mesohorny's Bush quote is the perfect response to you. He's saying the same thing Pelosi is. BinLaden's capture or death was not and is not the end of the campaign against the terrorists. Getting him is a triumph of justice and righteous revenge.

Your blather about context and your own distorted notion of history don't replace facts and quotes in a discussion.

There are plenty of things not to like about Pelosi. This attempt to ballyhoo a "contradiction" is a sadly partisan bit of sophistry in a moment of general national unity.

Bush gets it. You don't.

(edit to make last paragraph clearer)
 
ok, i just want to be clear on holder and the lefts interpretation of the law...

It is ok to throw out the term war criminal, nazi, etc. and hold the threat of criminal charges against (republican) executive office holders for holding in captivity a known terrorist that planned the 9/11 disaster (and not bringing him to trial (KSM).

its hero status for all involved (democrats) if you capture a terrorist in their home unarmed and execute them without judge or jury.

Do I have it about right?
 
General, whose support did the Bush administration NOT have 6 months after 9-11? And even if that were true (and it's not), how does that justify his quote?

You denounce one politician for talking out of both sides of her mouth (depending on the situation) and then offer a weak, nonsensical apology when someone calls out W for doing the same thing?
 
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