Why are We Tied?

[LHB_SOB]

Why does everyone say we're tied with Kansas (and ESPN has Kansas ahead of us on the conference standings)? We have the tiebreaker over them! We simply have the same record, right? Our victory puts us ahead of them in the Big 12. Or am I mistaken?

 

[bassale47]

In basketball, the Big XII does not use the tiebreaker rule to determine the conference champion. There will be co-champions if both teams win out. However, the tiebreaker rule will give Texas the #1 seed in the conference tournament.

 

[SL_Horn]

And depending when you saw the ESPN standings, prior to last night's game KU had one more win than us and in fact was all alone in first place for the 24 hours after they beat Tech on Monday.

 

[midtown]

They also have a better overall record than us.

 

[HornFan16]

I've seen us listed behind Kansas on some sites standings when we had the same number of wins even after we beat them.

 

[bierce]

Those sites were ranking teams according to overall record.

 

[HornFan16]

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[HornFan16]

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[The Horn Identity]

alphabetical?

 

[bierce]

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[Utkclack15]

KU does not have a win over one team this season that you can say is a LOCK to get in the tourney. Not one. Some teams will get in but right now nothing is set in stone. Hardly the most impressive resume for a # 1 seed.

 

[Hu_Fan]

K comes before T in the alphabet.

All the above posts explain it (I was just being sarcastic).

But, aTm is going to beat Kansas in College Station to complete their absurd season and the crazy wins-losses this year in the conference.

 

[Third Coast]

We beat them, but Tech beat us, and they beat Tech by 58 (29 buckets - buckets, not points - as Rome says), so it all evens out. Thus the tie.

 

[KosherHorn]

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[oSuJeff97]

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[bierce]

Of course, BlowU beat Texas 3 times that year, including by 21 in Austin, and by outscoring UT 40-19 in the second half of the conference tournament finals. THAT couldn't have had anything to do with the seeding.

Texas, ou, and KU all finished that year at 12-4, one game behind ISU 13-3.

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That was a very good team Texas had that year. Too bad it saved its worst games for most of its times in the limelight--losses to Duke (by 26), Arizona (by 28), Kansas (by 16), OU (by 21 at home), and the aforementioned 40-19 second half in the Big 12 finals. RPI doesn't take margin of victory into account. People sitting on tournament selection committees may not have margin of victory listed as a factor, but how can they naturally avoid thinking about such things?

 

[DRAG69]

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[Statalyzer]

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[bierce]

Given the tournament seedings and results, it appears he was actually talking about the 2000-01 season.

He is wrong about ou having a much worse record. They finished at 26-6. Texas was 25-8.

 

[Bob in Houston]

It was 2001 -- OU did win the final and there was a swap, a four for a six.

KU, OU and UT were all tied for second in the league, a game back of Iowa State.

 

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