When Will Horton Meets Jeremiah Wrigh

Satchel

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The GOPs Cynical Plan to Use Race in the Presidential Election

The New York Times reports this morning on a proposal, under consideration by the financier of the Ending Spending super PAC, to go nuclear against President Obama in ways no mainstream Republican has:

The plan, which is awaiting approval, calls for running commercials linking Mr. Obama to incendiary comments by his former spiritual adviser, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., whose race-related sermons made him a highly charged figure in the 2008 campaign.

“The world is about to see Jeremiah Wright and understand his influence on Barack Obama for the first time in a big, attention-arresting way,” says the proposal, which was overseen by Fred Davis and commissioned by Joe Ricketts, the founder of the brokerage firm TD Ameritrade. Mr. Ricketts is increasingly putting his fortune to work in conservative politics.

The $10 million plan, one of several being studied by Mr. Ricketts, includes preparations for how to respond to the charges of race-baiting it envisions if it highlights Mr. Obama’s former ties to Mr. Wright, who espouses what is known as “black liberation theology.”

The group suggested hiring as a spokesman an “extremely literate conservative African-American” who can argue that Mr. Obama misled the nation by presenting himself as what the proposal calls a “metrosexual, black Abe Lincoln.”

A copy of a detailed advertising plan was obtained by The New York Times through a person not connected to the proposal who was alarmed by its tone. It is titled “The Defeat of Barack Hussein Obama: The Ricketts Plan to End His Spending for Good.”

It's hard to know how seriously to take a pitch like this. As the Times notes, it doesn't actually have money behind it yet, and public exposure may not make that more likely. It would be an enormous risk for Ricketts to take, and not necessarily one his party as a whole would welcome.

The Ricketts super PAC is a new arrival on the outside spending scene — it gave Republican Deb Fischer an essential boost ahead of this week's Nebraska Senate primary — and is evidently looking to get a lot of attention in short order. An incendiary anti-Obama ad from Fred Davis (the man behind, among many other spots, McCain's "celebrity" ad, Pete Hoekstra's "Debbie Spend-It-Now" and Christine O'Donnell's "I am not a witch") would be one way to do

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Exposing racism = racism

Got it.

Next think you know, the GOP will be holding seminars on how to introduce race into every topic.
 
Sadly, both sides are going to use slimey methods. We've seen several examples of Obama's Chicago thuggery.

I happen to think this election is a serious thing, requiring us to actually consider each candidate's record.

Carry on with your race baiting BS.
 
Amazing that the NYTimes can scrutinize the perfectly legal thought processes of some obscure pac but completely overlooks the actual story that is----OBAMA SAT IN A RACIST CHURCH UNDER A RACIST PASTOR FOR TWENTY-SOMETHING YEARS!!!
 
Satchel, I acknowledge that both sides have and will use really terrible tactics. It sucks. We should be focused on Obama's record. That was my point.
 
Of course it is on every morning show because they want to make Romney look bad even if there is not evidence of a connection. Satchel, try hard to engage your brain. I'm assuming you have one if you are a Longhorn.
 
Yes, the MSM covered the story with the exact same gusto that it would have used had the person in question been a conservative. The ONLY reason it even got reported was due to a few independent websites.
 
One quick thing. There is no GOP mainstream. It's all Tea Pary all the time. You just kicked out the only remnant of what used to pass for mainstream in your party.

The only kinda moderate left in the GOP is Romney
 
There's where the lie takes root for satchel. Any conservative that says something that he considered radical or "wingnut" now speaks for the party. Makes life much easier for people who are only interested in hating. In fact, even if the party rejects it, because in his mind those people don't count.

Why did you change the headline on the article satch? Just curious if you thought people would be too stupid to actually follow the link and check for themselves.

I'm not going to waste any more time on this idiocy.
 
I was only 12 years old in 1988, so I wasn't cognizant of everything that was going on in the 1988 election. However, what was wrong with the Willie Horton ad? I've see it since the election, and is there something false in it?

From what I understand, Horton was convicted of first degree murder and was out of prison under a weekend furlough program (which is insane, but that's another matter). While out of prison, he assaulted a guy and raped his fiancee. Prior to that, the Massachusetts Legislature passed a bill to exempt murderers from the furlough, and Dukakis vetoed the bill. Bush used the veto to make Dukakis look weak on crime, and in light of the veto, that seems pretty fair to me. In fact, I'd say that ad was probably more accurate than most.
 
It is truly despicable when someone spew vicious lies about True Leader. Why True Leader never even met Jeremiah Wright. And if he had True Leader would bathed Jeremiah in his soft glow of true Bliss.

Why you just can't trust those racist republicans. This fair country should never have another white president.
 
77, this is for you. Jeremiah Wright is no Joel Oesteen, that’s for sure. Jeremiah Wright’s fiery, defiant, idiosyncratic personality notwithstanding, ignorance about the black church, about black liberation preaching, and about black preaching abound in this whole political spectacle. The black church is under fire because only kind of black preacher that white Americans such as yourself will tolerate as pastor to the one time aspiring black presidential candidate is one who does not criticize America from the pulpit, does not comment on white privilege in her or his sermons, and is humble and remorseful when s/he has been clobbered by the media.

The worst thing that can happen is for black people to let the media make us choose between Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright. We must hold on to both men recognizing that both are fighting powers beyond their control and navigating and negotiating them the best way they know how. Though neither has been faultless in the way he has projected himself, both men represent styles of leadership, masculinity, and oratory that we’ve come to appreciate in the black community and which we shouldn’t have to choose between because we need both. Barack Obama: calm, measured, deliberate, and idealistic, and Jeremiah Wright: fiery, brash, defiant, and pragmatic, always speaking truth to power.
 
There you go again Satchel, asking us to take seriously people who have different perspectives and life experinces than our own.
 
If I'm going to have a reasonable discussion with you about this issue, I'll have to disregard the outright lies contained in your response and press on.

The fiery liberation theology laced preaching of Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and thousands of other black preachers is nothing new to those of us in the black church. Even with all of its sometimes rhetorical excesses and over the top metaphorical reaches, we get it. Even if we don’t always agree with the preacher’s point of view, we get, for the most part, what he or she is saying. We get it so much that none of us has ever gone out and assaulted a white person because of something we heard in a black pulpit. We get it so much that we’d never dream of bombing a white church with little white children in it.

Black liberation preaching like what we’ve heard from Dr. Jeremiah Wright and others begins with the question, “What is God saying to the poor, the homeless, the despised, the disenfranchised, and those suffering and overlooked in our society?” It’s probably safe to say that the God the poor and disenfranchised worship on a weekly basis would be virtually unrecognizable to the God worshipped on a weekly basis by the wealthy and the privileged. And vice versa. These are issues people like you don't want to deal with.
 
Sounds like you are for segregation when it comes to church? At my church, all races attend and, believe it or not, our minister has yet to suggest we bomb any "black" churches. I guess this does not fit in with your blatant profiling and stereotyping of people not like you?

I know the Left is trying to divert attention away from the economy, but ramping up their war on Christians will backfire in my opinion.

This week's talking points include asking whether Jesus would be a democrat or a republican when it comes to reduction of food stamps. What the left misses is that republicans are all for charity and taking care of their brother. What they are not for is trusting the government to do it for them.
 
If you're going to have an opinion of the black church, the least you can do is educate yourself about and not react to what you're told my ignorant wingers. If I were a Christian segregationist, I wouldn't belong to a predominantly white denomination nor would I embrace a church like Trinity UCC which holds membership in virtually all white denomination.
 

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