What Leader should I Admire

Crockett

Crockett

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I voted in the Republican Primary yesterday, pretty convinced that Tom Leppert would be a good Senator and party leader for the state. He has conservative cred but was a concensus builder in Dallas which shows he can be moderate when he has to get things done.

He was trounced.

When I look at the national Democratic and Republican Parties and nobody (including our President) energizes me at all. They all aim their message to the extremists and uninformed and project no reasonable path forward. There's nobody I want to write letters to the editor to support, mail a check or go work a phone bank. Am I cynical, depressed .... is it just me ...
 
You may think he is too far to the Right, but the man named Paul Ryan has a plan. Again, you may not like it but he has a plan. He is focused on the looming debt crisis in this country and is offering plans with bi-partisian parts. He will be one of the few that will be able to stand their and with a straight face say I told you so.
 
It's the same problem we have faced for decades. Nearly all politicians aspire to make politics a career instead of approaching the role as a civic duty. That equates to a bunch of fence riding geldings unwilling to stretch their neck out far enough to get cut. The politicians are too afraid of losing their seat on the gravy train. Until we have either a significant reduction in benefits, including all the BS like retirement and illegal/legal trading, or term limits; we will never find a majority of leaders in our government.
 
For politicians, the election system is like a long intestine. The longer you stay in it, you almost inevitably turn more and more into what one expects at the end of an intestine.

I agree that there is a like of exciting leadership available to voters on any part of the spectrum. Did I say exciting? I should have written "competent" instead.
 
Horn6721 -- I live in the Lewisville ISD. Love our city, county and school board leadership up here. I'm close enough to Dallas that I read the paper, watch TV and to some extent know about the players in Dallas.
 
it is hard for me to admire anyone who quits after they promised to serve if people would vote for him and get him elected.
The BS that he had done all he wanted was also just plain stupid. I live in Dallas

As far as leaders, there are some who are trying to lead. If you are looking for someone who mirrors your ideals and wants exactly you will look forever.
make a list of 10 things or ideas or directions you'd like to see our country move in or toward
and then search out someone who agrees with you on as many as possible

As someone pointed out Ryan has spent a lot of time putting together plans that he thinks will help our country.
There are others who have plans that target their areas of expertise.It is not ideal but we only have a 2 party system and when one party only controls 1/2 of one part it is hard to be a leader.
I am excited about the newer Reps and Senators who are outting together coalitions of like minded people to try to change the direction we are headed. I don't see anything extreme" about wanting to bring the budget back in line and to start to reduce our deficit? Most of those young turks know there will be cuts and changes needed everywhere. ( see one of Ryan's plans to change SS )

If you are more liberal then do you not think BO has a plan that he is trying to get done?

I guess it all depends on what your core beliefs are. I am excited to see so many willing to endure campaigns to try to make changes.
I know most people think once you get up there all you want to do is stay there. There are enough people paying attention now that i don't think the new people going will get away with politics as usual.
I think they deserve a chance and if they don't get it done the " people" now know they can vote them out
 
Mr d
i disagree with you that the GOP only wants to talk trash.
The republicans in the congress have come up with proposals for most of the things we all see as problems and the House has passed bills that address them. in the Senate the Reoub ideas either never get out of committee or do niot get to a floor vote.

The public way the POTUS and most of the Dems have treated most of the Repub pols is not exactly civil

Mr D
do you think Paul Ryan is a trash talker and do you think he has been treated civilly by BO? or many of the Dem Pols?
 
mrD
actually Ryan has been able to compromised with some Dems
here is one
from link
'From the White House on down, Democrats were wringing their hands this week about the bi-partisan Medicare reform plan offered up by Ryan and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.The Link
here is a Wapo arivle on the GOP trying
"Budget talks: Republicans offer to seek common ground with Democrats
Senior Republicans conceded Wednesday that a deal is unlikely on a contentious plan to overhaul Medicare and offered to open budget talks with the White House by focusing on areas where both parties can agree, such as cutting farm subsidies.The Link
and yet again
from Wapo
'Republicans offer tax deal to break debt impasse; Democrats dismiss it
Congressional Republicans have for the first time retreated from their hard-line stance against new taxes, offering to raise federal tax collections by nearly $300 billion over the next decade as part of a plan to tame the national debt.

But Democrats rejected the offer Tuesday — along with the notion that Republicans had made a significant concession that could end the long-standing political impasse — leaving a special debt-reduction committee far from compromise with less than two weeks until its Thanksgiving deadline."The Link

and in one of the weirdest partisan dispkays reid blocks a vote the Reoubs wanted to bring on an BO jobs bill even while BO is whining that the House won't vote on it
"Talk about poor timing.

Moments after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, blocked a Republican motion in the Senate to vote on President Obama's jobs bill, the president's re-election campaign sent out an e-mail blasting House Republicans for not voting on the proposal."The Link

I remember obama reminding McCain and us all that he won in that supposed bi partian round table discussion

Hard to call someone " inept' at compromise when the other side knows it doesn't need to and is so smug about it they even refuse to let the GOP bring an Obama bill to vote.
 
Horn6721,

There are narrow examples of compromise, because they don't have any choice. Neither side wants a government shutdown. Furthermore, it's easy to give the illusion of compromise when your bill has a poison pill in it.

However, there's a reason why Congress can't pass a budget and why $1.5 trillion deficits have become acceptable. The parties aren't willing to compromise on a comprehensive budget fix. That is a new phenomenon, and it is destructive.
 
I don't consider one of if not the very first meeting BO had with Dems and Rep congresspeople and Bo insults paul ryan and Bo reminds McCain he won a narrow example

I think that set the tone

I am not sure how narrow it is when the Dem Senate Leader refused to let the GOP bring BO's bill to the floor for a vote.

Be clear I am not saying the repubs are above attacks fo their own but for now and for a few years past There isn't much the GOP can do to compromise and the links show that when they tried they got slapped down
 
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