Was her campaign a failure, really?

blueglasshorse

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Frankly, I'm amazed Hillary has done as well as she has done. People can fault her advisors all they want but sometimes, the best PR/marketing in the world won't convince people buy a Dodge over a Lexus.

Sometimes sales people have to sell inferior products. Sometime lawyers have represent guilty clients or defend lawsuits with very bad facts. A stellar performance by the attorney might be reducing a $10,000,000 lawsuit to a $100,000 settlement.

It's easy to second guess play calling after the game's over but if she was winning right now people would be saying her advisors are the best.

People just don't like Hillary, no matter how they package her. The fact that she came as close as she did to securing the nomination makes her advisors bad-asses in my book. The fact that she was the presumptive nominee a year ago, despite having the highest negatives of any candidate, didn't happen by accident.

Obama's success isn't so much due to brilliant campaigning. His product just sells itself. Hers doesn't.
 
that is the truth. right or wrong, i didn't want to vote for hillary because i don't like her. i don't believe that "liking" someone is a reason to vote for them, but not liking someone most certainly is reason to not vote for them. at least in my warped mind.

she reminds of about 100 different really bitchy mothers that i grew up around. and i wouldn't vote for them either.
 
So... she should be congratulated for managing to sucker so many people into supporting a fundamentally preposterous idea: that Hillary Clinton could be president.
 
Clinton's campaign was ABSOLUTELY a failure.

8 months ago she was sending out messages saying that it was a done deal that she was going ot be the next democratic nominee. Furthermore, the media coverage at that time FELT EXACTLY THE SAME WAY!

If you compare 8 months ago to today, its unfathomable that Obama is beating the Clinton machine. NOBODY saw that coming.
 
I don't know about the talent/effectiveness of her campaign but I agree she's utterly unlikeable. You know that "IT" factor that no one can ever fully explain? She possesses the antithesis.

Said it before and I'll say it again, Bill has HORRIBLE taste in women.
 
While she had unprecedented negatives to overcome, she ran an overconfident campaign that focused too early on the Republican candidates rather than the Democratic ones. Also, apparently they thought they would secure the nomination on Super Tuesday and had no organization in states whose primaries came later. The Super Tuesday results sent them scrambling with no hope of recovery. Time recently did a good article analyzing her failures which also included mis-management of personnel at the top of her campaign until it was too late. Surprising outcome, really, considering how astute a pol Bill is.
 
Her campaign will be the subject of dozens of books in just the next couple of years and for years afterward. More astute observers than I will write the history of this campaign. Despite her negatives she should have been able to secure the Democratic nomination. Some themes that will be explored will be strategic overconfidence and and a top-heavy campaign structure. Obama ran an insurgency campaign that was well organized and responsive.
 
Her strategy also appears front loaded. She concentrated everything of the states up to Super Tuesday hoping to knock any lesser funded and organized candidate like Edwards and Obama out by then, and only came out with a draw at that point. She didn't have the ground organization or fund-raising ability to maintain the campaign in the later states.
 
She suffered from a common liberal malady....she thought she was entitled to the position. I don't think it ever occurred to her she would need to earn it.
 
Yeah the Democrats loved that little midget but unless you are Jimmy Carter, an incumbent president shouldn't lose an election. Certainly not GHWB. While James Carville gets deserved credit for It's the Economy Stupid, The failure of the Bush campaign was poor maketing. Clinton was seen as feeling your pain and Bush was seen looking at his watch.
 
You're right, Austin, and raising taxes after the "Read my lips" statement helped get Perot a lot of what should have been his votes.
 
Her campaign, as stated before was too short sighted. They thought they already had the nomination locked up.

I was at a Panera here in Dallas on Tuesday afternoon killing time before class and a Hillary volunteer coordinator was at the table next to me making phone calls. They were still trying to recruit precinct captains two weeks before the primary. Obama's had his ground crew ready in Dallas for a year, at least. Hillary's in big trouble in Texas if this is any indication of her statewide organization.
 

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