War on women tactic

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Larry T. Spider

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Has this been a complete failure? I was watching the local news this morning and they claimed that Obama was up among women 55-37 (or close to that) back in September. They are now tied 47-47. Has the "war on women" tactic failed? Something else?
 
I read the other day that Sandra Fluke went to an event in Reno and only ten people showed up. Her fifteen minutes appear to thankfully be up.
 
Larry- I have thought about this a lot and I have a theory. It obviously involves some generalities but it is just a thought.

Women, in general, are more emotional than men. They want hope and change and were very persuaded by BO in 2008. He seemed different. He seemed passionate. He talked about wanting to get along and change a bad culture etc. he was very appealing when he was wrapped in the package, especially to women.

The problem that BO has is that women also do not react well to being fooled or scorned. When you attract a base based on emotion and promise, it can only last so long. Eventually those women want to see the action not just hear the words. And, when they feel like they have been betrayed, they over react to the other extreme. The exact same woman that was swept off her feet by BO in 2008 is now so mad at him that she doesnt want to even hear him try and woo her back. His talk is cheap and, women, feel betrayed.

Just a hunch.
 
I would agree, but he was still way up in September. I doubt they just figured out that he hasn't kept all of his promises in the last two months. For such a dramatic shift, something else happened.
 
Bronco,

I don't disagree with anything you said. However, the War on Women tactic is bigger than the Obama campaign. First of all, what is the "War on Women?" It's a political tactic in which a candidate or party exploits real or perceived sexual injustice (in employment, health care, reproduction, etc.) as a diversion to get women not to focus on other issues on which that candidate or party is weak. In this case, it's the Obama campaign not wanting women to focus on the economy. (It's really just a variant on the race card though no where near as effective.)

However, what they're doing in 2012 is part of the Democratic Party's normal playbook. They've been doing it since the '60s, and most of the time, it works fairly well. (Specifically, it works very well with single women and gets mixed results with married women.) There's almost always a "gender gap," almost no matter who the candidates are and what the issues are.

If it doesn't work this time, it'll be more than just a problem with Obama and his record. I think women are getting sick of it. I'm not saying they're all going to become Republicans and agree with them on most issues. However, I think they're getting to the point that they don't just see abortion and equal pay as clear cut man vs. woman issues. I also think they're seeing that their rights don't seem to change much based on who wins and who loses, so the tactic is losing some of the fear element. Without the fear element, it's a lot harder to get someone to disregard other more important issues.
 
Agree with all of this.

Larry, the reason BO was still "up" in Sept is becaiuse the women had not had a chance to see Romney up against BO. The debates showed that someone could easily support Romney and it would not be some typical knuckle dragging repub that had no fresh ideas or aproaches. They finally had some substance versus only style in a candidate.

While Romney is not as charismatic as BO, he has depth and experience. He was very successful in the private setcor and he earned it on his own merits and talents. He started at Bain on the ground floor and ended up running the joint. he had a very successful experience in the Olympics. Clearly he understands how to manage people and money and deal with complex issues. Then he was a very effective Governor of a demnocratic state.

On paper, he is an IDEAL candidate with a history of success in the private sector, the for profit sector, the non profit sector and in the government sector as head of a very politically bent state like MA. His accomplshments make him a much better candidate than any pres we have had in decades. Womwn can see and admit this.
 
There is a long pro-life tradition in the Republican Party who do believe life begins at conception which would make even "the pill" a muderer of babies, much less the morning after pill. If the pendulum swings far enough right, those guys will have real power. It may not be a "war" on women, but there is a clash of values vs. mainstream practices of reproductive freedom, including contraception, that could take away what some women perceive as freedom. Were it in his power Murdock would force raped women to bear the babies of their attacker. If you have total Republican ascendancy that's what would happen.
 
I've always thought the "war on" phrases were pathetic. Unless someone is actually shooting at you or otherwise attempting to physically harm you and dispossess you of liberty and/or property, it's not a war.

Anyone who actually been in combat knows that disputes about whether or not contraception should be required in health insurances plans is not war.
 
Mr. deep, the only group that I ave heard is against birth control is the Catholic Church, and many, many Catholics ignore that and will vote for BO. As far as I know, the only thing some Repubs have said is that the government should not have to pay for it. If women really want to be in total control of their bodies, they should handle their own BC. I did, and never expected someone else to pay for it.
 
Mr. Deez, the only group that I have heard is against birth control is the Catholic Church, and many, many Catholics ignore that and will vote for BO. As far as I know, the only thing some Repubs have said is that the government should not have to pay for it. If women really want to be in total control of their bodies, they should handle their own BC. I did, and never expected someone else to pay for it.
 
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