Usa vs Mexico soccer...illegal sting?

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Vince4Heisman

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A coworker asked what % of the people attending this game in houston are illegal...It got me thinking, that would probably be a pretty good sting operation. Most of the crowd is waiving Mexico flags
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I was wondering more about how many are living in the US period? Tickets weren't cheap and most of the illegals I know are working too much and too hard to go drop $50+ for a soccer game. I know there are a lot of Mexican nationals from Mexico City that have 2nd homes here in Houston and have a feeling they made up a large percentage of the Mexican fans in the lower levels that made it on TV.
 
'Police said the man was seen leaving the area in a 1980s model purple Bonneville..... " Wanna bet he was wearing green?

I will be curious to see if this is a crime related to team affiliation. If so does that mean that US soccer is indeed on par with the rest of the world?

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How anti-American was the sentiment really? They were pulling for their team. Its not much different than anti-Cowboy sentiment in DC or anti-any team from Boston sentiment in NYC. Some people take it over the top and get in fights, shootouts, and burn couches, but for most its friendly rivalry.

There were almost certainly illegals there. Lots of Mexicans would've spent 50+ dollars to go even if they only had 50 dollars to their name. I don't see the need to ruin a sporting event with a raid. Let the people enjoy it.
 
we heard gunshots from the green lot. the shots took place on our side of the stadium.. we ignored it and figured it was poppers or something. we noticed everyone looking over the rails from each deck of the ramp... i ran up the grassy hill but couldn't make anything out.

craziness... i'm not so sure this was soccer fan related as opposed to something else.

there were no confronatations at all... all the Mexicans we were surrounded by were very nice and we all took pictures, drank beer, had talks... high fives.... it was a blast.

this incident was very isolated




the only ****** thing i saw were three fucks wearing an Osama mask, Saddam mask, and some other dude's mask. I would've beaten the crap out of them just for that.. do it in your country, but not in America pal.
 
aside from the mask wearing clows, the fax were very nice as goo said.

we also brought this topic up whilst tailgating.
 
Couldn't have been closer to the shooting. I was directly across the street, roughly 30ft away, and maybe about 1ft outside the line of fire, if I was outside of it at all. I thought the car was actually burgandy. It was so different than you might imagine. The perception of a small moment in time truly does dilate.

I heard the first shot, and my split second thought was that it was some type of illegal firecracker, as smoke bombs were being lit by fans exiting after the game. I immediately turned toward the sound and saw the second shot. I think the gunman must have fired through a brown paper bag because I remember seeing the flash surrounded by an expanding circle brownish, irregular, papery debris. Then, this guy falls over in the grass, to his knees in a fetal position, and then to his side, kind of semi-proped upon his head.

One moment, people are just going toward their parking lot, cheering, with friendly banter, and then, bam, it was like a giant spotlight was shined upon a herd of wild animals. Everyone froze for a this infintesimal moment, and then utter chaos, and even though I know people are screaming, it's like someone hit the mute button over the whole area. People were running away from the spot in both directions, diving to the ground, trying to hide behind skinny poles and shrubs. I just started walking toward the guy who was shot, partially I think because I wanted to somehow help him and partially to convince myself of what just happened. Pure instinct, I wasn't thinking anything but, "why is everyone running, the car is taking off."

So, I'm just about by myself in the middle of the street except for a few groups of one or two people sprinting by, and then the people whom I assume were with the man who was shot, collapse around him in a ragged circle and then sound rushes back in; I am hear my brother and cousin screaming at me from about twenty or so yards away, "What the **** are you doing? Are you ******* crazy, run, run, run!" And my brother's voice was just ripping apart with fear and anger. I had heard him angry before, but I don't know if I've ever heard him sound so afraid except for one other time that also involved me. Then, I just turn around and start to follow my brother....it's so surreal.

I'm just so sick of this world at the moment. If that guy had died that would have been two people murdered within 10 to 40 yards of me in the last 18 months. And it bothers me that I don't feel the emotion that I think I should. I don't know if the emotions I feel right now are genuine or if I am manufacturing them because I think this is how I should feel. It makes me feel so tired. I mean, as I am walking down the ramps out of the stadium after the game, I am outnumbered probably 40 to 1 racially and in terms of team affliation, and it was no big deal. All of the Mexicans were yelling "Mex-i-co!" and I was this single voice countering "Tres a Dos" in the spaces between, and it was all cool. Not a worry in the world and we are all just laughing with one another. It was great. And then this crap goes down. So, I'm reading the comments in the Chronicle about it and its all race this, race that, blah, blah, blah. It was Mexican on Mexican, no it was Black and Mexican on Mexican, no it was White racists on Mexicans....This was the morning after and I cannot imagine who would have known what the racial makeup of the shooter or those with him were, because, as far as I know, none of that information was known or released at the time, and let me tell you something, the last bullet damn near had my name on it, and I couldn't tell you how many people were in the car or anything at all about what color they were....hell, it appears I don't even remember the color of the car correctly.


Five to ten percent of every race ruin things for all of the rest. All the moms, dads, little boys and girls, grandmas and grandpas and people of all ages just caught up in the moment laughing and more or less at peace and then all their faces contored in fear and crying, glassy eyed stares in the kids eyes, while parents frantically clutched up their kids and burst into lurching sprints.

WE ARE ALL ******* THE SAME PEOPLE AND SOMETIMES I THINK WE'D BE BETTER OFF IF WE WERE ALL BLIND AND DEAF!
 
Thanks for that detailed first-hand account. The description of the crowd reaction is particularly vivid.

In such a situation, I wonder how much a rush of power over the crowd plays into the shooter's actions.
 
you need to make those illegals legal via a guest worker program and your quality of life will shoot up.

Trust me, I see how cheap labour rocks the ******* house.
 
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