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HoffHorn

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I was pretty much outed in a previous post for alarming the begeezus out people in my subject line so I will be more distinct going forward.

For the Record Marc Lawrence is a pretty crappy handicapper even though he gets a lot of run nationally.

UPSET GAME OF THE WEEK
MISSISSIPPI over Texas by 1
Shame on us for counting on a ‘green’ Miami team to exact revenge
last week and deliver an outright upset of Kansas State. Especially
when you consider that our 4* Top Late-Phone release of UCLA was
a home dog that garnered Incredible Stat of the Week honors. Yes,
hindsight is 20-20 but we won’t make that mistake again. Thus, we’ll
grab a home dog this week where the double-digits look like pure
gravy. It appears as if the hiring of Hugh Freeze is already paying
dividends in Oxford as the Rebels are 2-0 for only the second time
in 10 seasons, outstatting both foes by a combined 1,103 yards to
658. And though we can’t expect them to put up 550 yards today,
we do know that they won’t be intimated by Texas as the Rebs’ last
two bowl wins have come against Big 12 opposition (Texas Tech in
2008 and Oklahoma State in 2009). In fact, it may be UT that tries
to tiptoe through this venue as they have not fared well against the
SEC, posting an overall 3-8 ATS mark, including 0-3 ATS on the road
and 0-5 ATS when the SEC enters off a SU win. Even ‘ol Macky Brown
is a (sukey) tawdry 1-6 SU and ATS in his career versus .700 or greater
SEC opposition. And when you toss in the SEC’s 16-12 ATS mark when
taking points against the Big 12 (including 4-1 ATS as home dogs)
along with UT’s 2-7 ATS mark as non-conference road chalk of 13 or
less points and 2-5 ATS log before dealing with Oklahoma State, you
can why the points become a must. So in the only meeting between
the SEC and Big 12 this regular season, we say take ‘em, not hook ‘em.
And don’t forget about that juicy +300 on the money line either!

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Am I right that they are predicting Texas to win, but by 1 less than the line? If so, I don't see that as too crazy... The line is Texas by 10, so this would predict a 9 point win by Texas on the road.
 
Most of those stats are irrelevant to this game.

So Mississippi beat Texas 3 years ago when Crabtree was playing at about 70%, awesome, but how is that going to help them beat Texas this saturday?
 
"they won’t be intimated by Texas as the Rebs’ last two bowl wins have come against Big 12 opposition (Texas Tech in 2008 and Oklahoma State in 2009"

Holy **** this is probably the dumbest gambling predictor I've seen. Success against teams from a similar conference 3-4 years ago?? Plus, our D is hellaciously better than either Tech's from 2008 and OK State's from 2009.
 
I love when people use a program's "ATS" record to justify picking an out and out loss. What does Las Vegas' ability to overestimate the volume of a beat-down have to do with whether a team will show up and win?
 
I actually don't mind using a team's ATS for betting purposes. Texas is historically overrated by Vegas on purpose. They know how people bet.

But the whole "here's how we fared against teams from the same conference years ago" thing is what got me in a tizzy.
 
Obvious TROLL. I'm not sure wtf ATS and SU means. I do know his facts are wrong. But don't take my word for it...

"The University of Texas Longhorn football team's all time record against the Southeastern Conference is 34 wins, 16 losses and 2 ties, through the 2009 season. Their all-time record against current SEC members is 95-46-4."
 
It means against the spread. He's not incorrect, he's just using bad gambling info.

Texas is historically bad against the spread because people are more likely to bet on Texas, hence pushing the spread up.
 
Thanks for the clarifications Horns11. But I like my numbers much better
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I don't gamble on college football. I do know the spread is fabricated by Vegas to try and bring the bets even on both sides. Bottom line is I just want the W, and historically we have done well against the vaunted SEC SEC SEC...
 
SU is straight up as in won or loss. Will be interesting
to see if our much larger O line can push Ole Miss's D line around.

If so we win fairly easily if not then I hope the defense is on it's game.
 
What gives me more concern than anything else about this game is QB Bo Wallace. He appears to be a very capable QB. If Ole Miss plays any D at all, we could be in for a real fight.
 
Watched the replay of the Ole Miss/ Texas El Paso game last night. Ole Miss looked big, fat and slow. Not a good combination if you are playing Texas.
 
I am particularly interested to see what our Defensive front (4) can do against and always HUGE offensive line at Ole Miss. If we give Bo Wallace too much time, it could be a battle all night.
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Mr. Lawrence's evaluation of the game made about as much sense as astrology. You know Mars is in retrograde, blah, blah, blah.

The Rebs last two bowl wins come against Big 12 opponents. UT is 3-8 ATS whatever that means. What a load of malarky. You could have a monkey throw darts at a list of games and probably fare as well.
 
The man is a genius, I tell you. It was a guaranteed lock or the season is FREE!!! Just call the 1 800 number!!!

Anybody who pays any attention to these handicappers deserves what they get (becoming poorer).
 

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