U.S. Influence on the Wane

Simply put, Barack Obama is in way over his head. He is not a leader, and it is inevitable that the world community will recognize this.
 
Johnny:

Name one bit of leadership that he ever exhibited before he was President?

Step outside of yourself for a second and ask if that is presidential material, honestly?

I am asking you to be as objective as possible......

In my opinion his resume is not one that says president, take away the person, speeches etc, just look at the resume as if it was on Monster, would he have gotten an interview for POTUS, I doubt it very highly.

No Leadership positions.
Mid-40's
No substantial legislation
No corporate experience
No Foreign Policy experience or negotiations
Had not even completed one term as a Senator
 
major - that's an altogether different question than his leadership while in office. but let's also be honest about the 2008 election - he was running against another person who was short on "leadership" or "executive" positions in his bio.

yes, he came into the WH without much official "leadership" or "executive" experience. that's absolutely true and i've never suggested otherwise. my comment was in regards to what he's done after elected and how the deck was stacked against him from day 1 by an entire party who made it their publicly stated goal to make him fail. that's also not leadership, and it makes it impossible to be a "good leader".

shiner - what do you think his lack of leadership has caused/exacerbated on an international level that better leadership would not have? i think a lot of the international community is looking at the USA right now from the perspective of "clean your house first" - which goes back to my original point.
 
Fair enough.

I will agree to disagree on McCain, if anything Leadership was his strong suit, but I will agree to disagree.

The mark of a true leader is when your back is to the wall and everybody is against your idea. The abililty to turn negatives into positives. The ability to get people that are against you to follow you or at least not be against you.

The greatest leaders that I have worked with and been around are not speech givers, when the chips are down they don't give speeches, they roll up their sleeves and get it done. They do not blame anybody, they say it happened, and this is what we are going to do to move forward.

I have seen leaders in many different areas of my life and many different kinds of leaders, taking his beliefs out of the equation and just looking at his actions as President, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the strongest leader, I give President Obama a 3.5. You get 2.0 just for being President.

On just another note, I don't believe that you go through 40 some odd years of your life and not exhibit some of those skills if you have them. I believe they are for the most part natural, however you can enhance leadership with experience.

POTUS is not a place for on the job training.
 
The OP link is the NYT pointing out the US/Obama efforts vis a vis Palestine/Israel talks and efforts to prevent palestine calling for a vote in UN for a state failed.

It is hard to see Sarkozy etc stepping into a role US presidents have had for decades.


I guess when you realize your messiah has failed you jump to blaming the GOP. why not blame Bush at the same time?


I hope everyone reads the entire link. It was painful to see how Sarkozy handled the phto op after he met with obama at his hotel compared to how obama handled it.
I think that illustrates why Obama is not a leader.
 
some of you bootlickers are really sad. Obama has taken every really ****** bush policy and made it bigger and more expensive. Military actions escalating, and adding new ones. SPending. My God Bush looks like a ******* penny pincher by comparison. Let's see 1776-2008 debt = 9.5 Trillion. 2009-2011 debt = a fast approaching 15 Trillion. Thanks for being the "taxpayer best friend" Barack. Bush with a prescription drug entitlement we cannot pay for. Not to be outdone here come Brack with an entire healthcare takeover we cannot possibly afford. He took all the positions of strength Bush left him in the international scene (not saying people liked us, but at least feared and resepcted us) and neutered them to where we have a leader bowing to Japanese leaders, and Arab oil overlords. Good grief. The only thing Barach Obama has done that has been halfway worth a dog **** is improve Jimmy Carter's legacy. But oh I see we still have the believers in hope and change. sad. I really blame the corporate jet owners for all this. It is clearly their fault, but of course those depreciation credits they are getting that Obama hates so much, came from Obama in a nice litlle trillion dollar stimufail. Not only is he a coward who blames other for his mistakes he is so ******* dumb he doesn't even know he is responsbile for the things he is blaming on others. This is a man who used the postal service as an example of why we should pass his healthcare bill. Come on people pull your head out of obamas ***. Put someone in the democratic primary against him. Beg HIllary to run. I'll vote for her over Perry or Romney. Put Barack back on the ticket and I will vote for my dog over him. She's much smarter than him, and she's black so I won't even have to feel guilty.
 
all it takes to get over the killing of OBL is look at the 5.5 trillion in debt this moron has racked up in 3 years. Great, he killed OBL. He is also killing any shot we have at economic recovery anytime soon.
 
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