To All the Yankee Haters

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torre

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Your liberal minds which loathe wealth and success have been disappointed.

Got 27? Got 40?
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When I was in the gym tonight, there were about a dozen or so guys standing around the big screen watching the game. All of them but one were for the Yankees. I think the Yankee haters just make so much noise that there seems to be more of them.
 
The Phillies were a great team. They just didn't have the lineup the Yankees had or the deep pitching rotation the Yankees had. Cliff Lee absolutely shut outt he Yanks but the rest of the staff was meat.

I don't get your hook 'em at the end of the OP. Don't see the connection. Or the connection to liberal wealth loathers either. But okay.

A-rod had a great post season and it will go down as one of the most productive ever. He had some clutch hits in the WS as well. He is no more known as the guy who chokes in the postseason or the guy who will never be a winner and get a ring. Sure he cheated some but probably less than what Pettit or others did. That whole era is tainted anyways.

Congrats to the Yankees.
 
Most of the Yankee haters probably aren't really hating on the Yankees. It's the system in which the game is played whereas there is no cap in baseball and the Yankees can consistently have a $200 million plus payroll in order to try to "buy" a championship. It's just not a fair and balanced system. However, this is not the Yankees fault. They're just using the system to their advantage because they can afford to do so. Any sport whereas one team has been to 40 championship series while the next closest organization has something like 20 or 21 appearances, and yet, there is still no kind of economic system in place to balance or even things out for all teams - there is a problem with that. Once again, that's not the fault of the Yankees, but they're the team with all of the gold or so it seems.
Unfortunately, much of the Yankees' good fortune comes at the expense of other teams losing their free agents to the Yankees because they can't afford to pay them as much. When there is a potentially great player coming up on the free agent market, what is the very first team that you think of as a possibility to land that free agent? That's right, the Yankees. What other sport can you say this about? Yeah, there are some teams in the NBA and the NFL that you may think about like this, but you can't ALWAYS say that so and so is a definite possibility to go to [add any one of those NBA or NFL teams here].

I wish that the Rangers could bankroll their roster the way the Yankees can. They just cannot afford to do so. They tried to do this with A-Rod, but they didn't have enough to add the other pieces needed around him to make a serious run. He goes to the Yankees and he's just one of the $100 million plus studs that they've acquired over time. Of course, I realize that Jeter, Petite, and Rivera are all home-grown talents.

I think that this more than anything is what is killing the popularity of MLB with true baseball fans. It's hard to gear up for baseball every season when you already head into the season thinking that the usual suspects are going to be there at the end - the Yankees, the Red Sox, and the Angels. I would add the Dodgers, but they haven't been there too much in recent years. And, if not all of those four teams, you, at least, always expect the Yankees and/or the Red Sox to be there at the end. Any question as to where these two organizations stand in regards to the price tag of their respective rosters?

So, once again, I say that most people are just hating on the current system in place in MLB and not the Yankees. It is just that the Yankees seem to benefit the most from the current system. At least, this is the way that I feel about it. Heck, I used to like the Yankees as a kid, but it gets old to see the same team gobbling up all of the highest-priced talent and competing for the pennant and World Series title year in and year out.
 
Lone Star must be one of them librul rich guy haters.
Yeah, why should anyone else be able to compete? Whoever has the most money should win all the time.
 
What bothers me about the Yankees and their fans is the sense of entitlement they seem to share: to the manor born.

I have a very good friend in New York who loves the Yankees and he just doesn't seem to understand that fans of other team want to win, too. He seems to think that winning is the domain of solely the Yankees.

I liked the Yanks in 1998 because I admired the way they were winning games at an unprecedented rate with no everyday player on the roster that, at that time, you knew was a bona fide Hall of Famer. (Since then, we've realized that Bernie Williams and Derek Jeter will no doubt be in Cooperstown.)

You had Tino Martinez at first, Chuck "Watch your head" Knoblauch at second, Scott Brosius (who??) at third, Jeter at short. You had Paul O'Neill in right, Bernie in center and a revolving door of Chad Curtis, Shane Spencer and Ricky LeDee in left. Joe Girardi was behind the plate, and the starting rotation was Clemens, David Wells, David Cone and Andy Pettitte. The bullpen had John Wetteman as a closer and a set-up man named Mariano Rivera.

They were fun to watch, and next to the Rangers, they became my favorite team.

But now ... things have changed. They've repeatedly bought the best players and it's just not fair. It's a bottomless wallet. There's no competitive balance in the AL, no matter how many times Bud Selig claims there is. The "haves" -- Yankees, Red Sox, Angels -- will continue to dominate and the rest of the teams might as well not even bother.
 
Texanne - have you had any conversations with die-hard Red Sox fans since 04? Talk about a sense of entitlement...and there's nothing wrong with that. When your team experiences some success, and you see that the front office is willing to do whatever it takes to put the team in a position to win, you start expecting championships. Reminds me a little of the fans on this board with the Horns.

I wonder if the Mets, Angels, Cubs or Tigers won the series would we be hearing things like "they bought that championship" or would it be "they spent their money wisely". My money's on the latter. Can't really fault the Yankees for having the willingness to spend the money and go after the best players. Never mind the fact that Steinbrenner isn't even the wealthiest owner, but he spends like it...never mind the fact that the Red Sox offered Teixeira more money...never mind the fact that the Yankees contribute the most to the revenue sharing program year after year...they can't force the likes of KC and the rest of the small market teams to spend the money on free agents.
 
Lone Star pretty much nails it. It is the fault of MLB that there is no salary cap like in the NBA or NFL. I don't blame the Yankees either, but rather the system. It is just not fair to see the same 4-5 teams every year at the end competing for the World Series. I also do not understand the OP's comment about "liberal minds which loathe weath and success.." What does that have to do with baseball?
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My only issues with the Yankees are that they dont have to live with their mistakes like other teams.

How smart does Brian Cashman really have to be? They added 420MM in payroll commitments last off season. Half a BILLION dollars in addition to another 300MM to ARod.

Still, with all that, when Mariano Rivera is done, they will have issues. He has been the most important guy on the team for over a decade and nobody seems to understand that.

He is a singular talent.
 
If there is another Mariano Rivera out there, the Yankees can just buy him. I don't hate them, but it is unfair to other teams to have no salary cap. There have to be some rules to ensure competition.
The way it is, it is only newsworthy if the Yankees don't win, which amazingly has been happening the last few years.
Teams sports don't always go to the most talented team, but it sure is an advantage.
 
Just out of curiousity, is there anybody on the team except Jeter who came up through their farm system or were they all just bought up on the market?

I don't hate them and enjoy watching Sabathia and Pettite pitch but it is hard to see how fans can get any great joy out of seeing a team of purchased all stars win----kind of like watching our Horns wallop Rice and feeling like it proves anything other than we have a lot more money to spend and their players have higher IQs and go to real classes.
Now when we beat a USC or OSU or somebody else who is competitive with us, that gets me beaming.

So I guess if I was a Yankee fan I would be proud to see them beat the Red Sox and be disappointed if they did not win a penant every other year.

And then there is their owner, who must be awfully glad Jerry Jones is around.
 
Yankees up the NYY system include (but not limited to):

Jeter
Mariano
Posada
Pettite
Cano
Cabrera
Gardener
Chamberlain
Hughes
Robertson
Coke
Molina(?)
 
"And while we're at it, let's go ahead and have everybody play by the same rules and do away - once and for all - with the DH."

Don't you mean force the NL to adopt the DH? Every other level of organized baseball, from LL to amateur to college to whatever, has a DH.

I don't loathe the Yankees because of their success. If anything, they should have had MORE success over the last 8 years because of their Death Star sized payroll.
 
Those guys all hit around .180 to .200 for their careers. It's an easy out and a stat-inflater for the NL pitchers. On top of that, when Clemens was on the Astros, they did a study of how often headhunting pitchers were thrown at by opposing teams, and it was LESS than the percentage that batters were thrown at.

We might as well go back to fingerless gloves, no free agency, and no helmets either.
 
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