Tip Calculating Aps for Your Phone

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Are there really enough people out there that don't know how to calculate a percentage on the calculator on their phone to pay $5 bucks for a program to do it for them?

Are things really that bad?
 
Are there really people who can't figure a 15 percent tip in their heads that they have to use the calculator on their phone?

I'm a math atheist and even I can do that.
 
i used to work with a guy that was a Senior Vice President of our bank that carried a tip cheat card in his shirt pocket everywhere he went.

scary.
 
Are there really people who can't figure a 15 percent


It's 20% percent. well, that's what I hear and do. However I don't tip on the tax. But I did have a bartender the other night say the other night that you should. I disagree.
 
Yeah it's funny how some folks can't figure out a frigging tip. A decent tip is 15% a good tip is 20%, I will routinely put down 50% on a first or second smaller bar tab at a place I want to get great service and drinks at in the future.

My best trick for getting remembered is that I ALWAYS introduce myself to the bartender and after I give them the big tip I make sure they remember my name again. Then I bet them $10 the next time I come in they won't remember my name. If they do remember they appeciate the $10 and usually don't forget it and I get a killer drink. If they forget it I get a killer drink and give the $10 back. If you are going to hang out at a place the "investment" of a few big tips up front pays dividends literally for years in some instances.
 
I was at a hotel last night in Manhattan. Realized this am at breakfast that they include 20% "gratuity" already on the bill. That I can understand because the hotel has a lot of Japanese and European guests that don't tip by culture/habit, so the staff was probably sick of getting stiffed. Problem is that they still included a "gratuity" line. If you're not paying attention then you'll tip twice
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Such an app might be useful if it also provided information on customary tip rates for common services - e.g. pizza/food delivery, haircuts, valet parking, hotel staff, Sonic carhops, etc.
 
Anyone still tipping 15% for good service needs a swift kick to the ***, scratch that, swift kick to the testicles. And the second a calculator is busted out, the server knows they're screwed and you're an idiot.
 
It's relatively easy to figure out 10% and then double that figure. I'll then round up or down depending on service. It's a different kind of math stupid that can't figure out a simple percentage in your head, then is it not even be able to use a calculator to do that. It takes a special kind of stupid to then take that a step further to pay money money for a program to do it for you.
 
Are there really people who can't figure a 15 percent tip in their heads that they have to use the calculator on their phone?
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15% is considered cheap now. its 20% now and you arent supposed to tip on tax or alcohol technically.
 
I'm 33. When I was a kid 10% was a standard 'regular' tip. Somewhere along the way it went up to 15%, and now 20%, or even some places I have seen adding gratuity as 22%. My question is why? Have food rates gone up more slowly than the cost of living has been inflated? I certainly don't think waitstaff are making double what they did when I was a kid, don't get me wrong. I just don't understand the over a doubling of a %.
Also, why are waistaff allowed to be paid at lower than minimum wage (at least in Texas)? Why are they not an employee that is subject to minimum wage, and then tips are added on top of that. TIPS, actually stand for 'To Insure Prompt Service.' They started out as a benefit to insure your waitstaff treated you well. Now they are so standard that if you don't give 20% you are seen as a 'bad' tipper.
Now, don't get me wrong, I am not a bad tipper, and I appreciate wait staff and try to treat them as best I can (as I have been waitstaff before). These are just questions that have never made sense to me.

PS. you don't need a damn calculator and I am amazingly math ignorant.
 
I haven't waited tables in a couple years, but for the 10+ yrs that I was in the restaurant business, servers made from $2.13-$3.13 depending on their level. So the tips put them over the minimum wage threshold. But since min wage is now $7.25, does anyone know if servers' base wage has risen from the 2.13 range?
 
So let me ask you this question... what is the actual history of tipping? Why 'must' one leave a tip?
And why are employers exempt from paying their employees minimum wage? TIPS are not left for the emplorer, they are left for the employee. There is no set amount and as I understand it no tip can be required, unless stated before hand by the establishment.
I believe that an employer has a responsibility to properly compensate their employees. I don't think that operating on a tip system necessarily does.
 
THEU, I'll try to answer your questions, keeping in mind that this is all from my experience, and being unaware of other company's policies or state requirements.
1. History of tipping? No idea
2.Why must one leave a tip? More courtesy than anything else. Most are aware that servers don't make min wage w/out tips and it's a way of showing appreciation of their service to you
3.Why are employers exempt from paying min wage? They aren't. Again, this is my experience, but if a server for some reason doesn't make minimum wage on a given shift (hourly wage + tips) then the employer was required to make up the difference by adjusting their hourly wage for that given shift. Of course the catch here is that a server could "hide" some of their tips if they were cash, but if they tried that, they could really only do it once,cause it just doesn't happen and it wouldn't be worth the extra $5. In all my years, I never saw this happen, but like I asked, now that min wage is 7.25, it might be possible, espeically during a slow shift at a ****** establishment.
4. Predetermined tip by establishment? The 2 companys I worked for would add a 15% gratuity for 8 or more, under 2 conditions. FIrst, the server told the table the gratuity was added and Second, the manager would either check with the table first to verify the service was worthy of a tip or actually deliver the check with the gratuity added. At that point though, if the table objected, the set 15% was taken off and the tip was left for the guest to determine.
5. Responsibility of employer to compensate employers because a tip system doesn't? Like a prior answer, this never came up. It is very hard between tips and the hourly wage for a server not to make at least min wage on every shift. If your establishment sucks, or the server sucks than maybe. Some days are better than others and some guests are better tippers than others, but rarely does a ever a good server make less than 15-18% of their net sales.

Maybe this helps, like I said, this is strictly from the 2 establishment I have experience with.
 
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