This world is pretty freaking cool ( unpopulated)

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Wulaw Horn

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I just got back from a 15 day road trip with my cousin where we drove from Napa California, through Seatle, into Canada, through BC and the Yukon on the alaska highway to Fairbanks, then Anchorage then Sewart, back through Canada, hitting edmonton and calgary, into Montana, yellowstone the teatons, through the great salt lake region, Reno and back to Napa.

It was an unbelievable trip and there is so much natural beauty and grandness in this world that it is stunning to me. It really spoke to me seeing this world in all it's splendor and beauty. For me it argues for a creator b/c I just can't imagine randomness creating this much goodness and beauty. Especially the drive from Anchorage to Seward, just jaw dropping for 125 miles more or less.

As usual, whenever I travel I'm struck by just how vast and empty most of creation is. We drove through 2000 or 2500 miles of Canada and came accross 3 cities and about 10 towns, most of it was vast unpopulated forest in BC and Yukon, or grazing land in Alberta.

It was funny, we went to Yellowstone and the lady in a film was talking abouat how we have ruined this world by taking away the wilderness, that there just isn't any left, we started laughing and thought she should maybe move to the yukon, where near as we can figure about 30,000 people live in a geographic area around the size of Texas.

It wasn't just Canada though, Montana, Utah, heck, even most of N. California and most of Oregon and Washington just don't have many people in them.

Some of the stuff was so beautiful I can kinda understand the Mother Earth worship and Gaia people. I think they are confusing worshipping creation rather than creator, but maybe I'm wrong- that's just how it speaks to me.

Will post pics when I get them developed.
 
Agreed on most counts other than the Creator part.

I just drove 4,250 miles from NYC to San Diego. I took the scenic route through Iowa, Minnesota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, Nevada and Arizona. I drove through Badlands National Park, the Black Hills, Yellowstone, Zion National Park and Bryce Canyon.

The total trip was 2 weeks. Now I want to go back and spend a month everywhere that I had to blow through in a day.

Sitting at a desk all day has lost much of its appeal. I think I'll just walk the Earth and get in adventures.

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Try a 70-day road trip from Austin to Anchorage. On a bike. You see a lot more on a bike than you ever will out the car window.

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Yeah, it's true that a ton of the Earth is unpopulated. But not enough. Most of the places I encountered that were unpopulated, like most of New Mexico, North Arizona, South Utah, the entire state of Nevada, the Yukon, and Alaska, are places that no one wants to live. Just think how many more amazing and beautiful places there could be, and how much more amazing they would be, if the human population was maybe 1 billion (like it was 150 years ago) instead of 6.7 billion.
 
Sounds like a very cool trip, but...Will post pics when you get them developed?!? Dude, are you still using a film camera??? BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!! i thought I was a Luddite.
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It sounds like an amazing trip and that you made the most of the opportunity, truly appreciating the beauty that surrounded you.

I think there are options beyond creator or randomness, but that is a different thread.

The woman at Yellowstone is especially ironic. Yellowstone is a study in how badly human beings can screw up an ecosystem when they try to intentionally meddle in it.

I'm glad you enjoyed the trip. I've always thought that if I was absolutely forced to leave Texas, the next best place to live would be San Francisco/Napa. So many incredible things to do are within easy driving distance.
 
You can't play that creator card, because then someone (like me) can come along and say Oh yeah, well I see starving children all over the world, and that is evidence against a creator.
 
Thanks, Stat got where I was going with that, sorry if that was the main point that got taken from the post.

And yes, the Yellowstone thing had me laughing, only it kinda made me sad when I thought how many of our kids see that thing and freak out and have the wrong idea. She said we can't lose one more square inch of wilderness or we're doomed, and yet, like 80 or 90 percent of this world is wilderness.

And the whole children starving thing I would argue is our fault as humanity, since we have abundant food to feed everyone in this world if we cared enough to do so. Not doing so and allowing others of God's creature's to starve to death through our selfishness is somthing that I think we'll (including myself) have to answer for some day, but really that's another topic and my point was received at least by Stat.

Actually, I don't even own a camera, my cousin had it and he's sending me the pictures but he had a digital and ran out of room (I don't know how this works as I've never taken a picture in my life) and bought a disposable. He's mailing me the pics, and he's drawing (he's an artist) somthing suitable for hanging on my wall of our trip (that was his price of going on the trip, that and having to listen to an unemployed! 29 year old philosophize about the world and give him advice on life and stuff like that.

It was a ball, I don't think we had a cross word the entire time. The only thing that was tough was he didn't get many/most of my jokes or pop culture drop ins- he is 20 and his awareness of the world around him dates back to about 1997.
 
HF amazes me in that Wulaw makes a post that is primarily about how beautiful the world still is, and how overwhelming that beauty is. So much so that it strikes beyond beauty in the eyes, to a heart and dare I say spiritual level. By stating that HF posters try to tease out evolution v. creator....

Thank you for your post Wulaw.

Also, I remember a professor telling me while @ UT in the late 1990s that the entire population, if we lived at the population density of the Japanese...could live in Texas. Now, I am not an advocate for living at the population density of the Japanese, but I thought it did speak to how 'wide open' much of the earth still is. Again, just a thought..... not trying to start an argument of rural v. urban.
 
Back in the eighties I wanted to find a nice remote place and went on vacation to the small island of Roatan off the coast of Honduras. There wasn't a paved road on the island and the coral reefs offshore were absolutely amazing when snorkling. The beach, however, was covered with plastic bottles and other trash showing that distant civilization could spoil such a beautiful place even from afar.
 
Ive done two float trips along the Yukon River. One was a 13 day trip down the Big Salmon to the Yukon down to Dawson City via a single canoe with my dad. The other was a 5-day from White Horse to Carmacks, via Lake Laberge. I highly recommend either trip to anyone who likes the outdoors. Amazing scenery and wildlife. Near total isolation (there are other people on the river, but since everyone is going the same speed, you can go days without seeing anyone). For history buffs like me the river is amazing: lots of old forts, mining equipment, cabins, cemeteries, shipwrecks, and villages to explore. The whole time you can fish (salmon, greyling) and look for gold nuggets.

About a year after the trip with my dad, he passed away from cancer. Having shared those two weeks on the river is something I'll always treasure.
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