This is an error right?

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Vince4Heisman

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Ok tonight during a littlle league allstar game, we had a play that i think was an error but not sure exactly how it is scored.

The situation is second and third with no outs, the batter hits a easy grounder to third base who sees the runner going home. He makes a perfect throw home and our catcher for some reason thinks the bases is loaded and catches the ball on the plate and fires to first without making the tag. The runner at first is safe as well. To me tihs is scored as a fielders choice and an error on the catcher for not making the tag. Our scorekeeper says their are no mental errors recorded in the book and awards the runner a hit. WTF
How is that a hit? It has to be an error on the catcher right?

He also gave basehits on another situation, first and seccond and no outs...easy grounder to third where the shortstop has to charge it and looks like he could tag the runnre going to third...or get the force at third ,second or first...the ball is softly hit but playable...the SS bobbles it and gets no outs..he awards a hit?

Thoughts?
 
I think in the first situation he's actually right. I think it's a fielders choice with no errors, but it's probably somewhat of a scorers preference.

THe second situation should be an error if it was obvious he could have gotten those outs.
 
Wow no error? So if a regular ground ball is to SS and the first baseman catches the ball just just doesnt stand on the base thats not an Error?

The play at the plate the runner was dead meat, I am talking about 4 steps. All the catcher had to do is wait with the ball for an easy tag. When he fired to first I about fell out of my chair.
 
My mom was our scorekeeper in little league and if I got on base it was a hit no matter what. I think i batted like .680 one year. THANKS MOM!
 
well yeah we keep stats. not that they matter much, the only one I use for real is on base %. I dont care how they get on as long as they are getting on. This is 11 year olds.

I know there are no mental errrors but to me if there is a playable play and its not made then thats an error on the fielder....IE the catcher not making the tag..or the SS not catching a pop up and letting it drop....now if the runner just beats out the throw on a grounder and fielder gave it his best effor then yeah a hit.
 
first one is FC, no hit and no error.

second one is E6.

on a potential routine double play, if the ump rules that the SS or 2b was not on the bag when they caught the ball, its a FC but not an error. similar to situation 1 above.

another way to think about it is this: 3b throws to catcher who has time to apply the tag, but misses and the runner is safe. that's not an E2.
 
if it happened in MLB it probably is a FC, however you are talking little league. I was my son's team score keeper which meant when we were the home team I was the offical game score keeper. We were told by the league to err on the side of hit, as at the age nothing is considered and easy or automatic play
 
True but you would assume the catcher will make an attempt....the way i saw it is if he gives his best attempt and the out isnt made then ok, FC but since the catcher gave no attempt then E...either way i knew it wasnt a hit
 
I can't remember now if the scorekeeper awarded a hit or not but if he scored it a FC - then it would still count against his on base % if that's what you mainly look at.
 
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