The Other side of the story (that won't get any play in MSM)

Seattle Husker said:
Thank you for sharing Russia's position. I wasn't sure where they stood until your post.:thumbup:
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Which of these four individuals are Russians? Three of them served in the US Government. The other is an academic. In your view, anyone that challenges the government must be a Russian. Could it possibly be that these people are capable of independent thought and don't simply mimic what the company line is (as you do)?
 
I'm not saying their aren't contrary opinions, specifically those that are favorable to Russia and critical of the US. You can be counted on ensuring any opinions favorable to Russia (and Putin) are presented here.

You're like a Russia PR Rep. That's OK which is why I thanked you for their position.
 
Seattle Husker said:
I'm not saying their aren't contrary opinions, specifically those that are favorable to Russia and critical of the US. You can be counted on ensuring any opinions favorable to Russia (and Putin) are presented here.
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That's correct. I am not a technical expert, but I understand motive and I understand historical patterns. Both of which fall under the category of circumstantial, but give credence to the Russian/Syrian version and not to the US version.

Motive. For Assad, there is no motive that makes sense. The first rationale that was floated was that because Tillerson had stated Syria would be allowed to govern themselves, Assad figured he could use chemical weapons with impunity. Nobody bought this. So the narrative changed to say that the Rebels had gained territory so Assad believed it was necessary to use chemical agents to retake the territory. Please. This is just as implausible. On top of this is continuing to repeat sound bites, "Assad has used chemical weapons before and has murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people." There is no factual proof that he has used chemical weapons before, the 2013 attacks were false flags. the thousands of dead include foreign fighters from more than 80 countries, as well as Syrians. Was Lincoln a monster because he killed tens of thousands of his own citizens?

Motive. The Rebels (jihadists) had a motives to use chemicals as a false flag. The objective? To get the US to respond militarily and turn the momentum back to their side. This was done in 2013. Turkey was complicit for sure. I believe the US, Saudis, and Qatar were also involved. The desire to remove Assad has been part of the game plan for many years.

History. R2P - The responsibility to protect innocent citizens is now US doctrine used as justification to destroy countries, their infrastructure, and to install a new regime. It was first used to break up Yugoslavia, then Iraq, Libya, and finally Syria. In each case, demonization of the target is emphasized with a barrage of media assisted propaganda and false intelligence.

Those who point this out or question the narrative are then held up to ridicule or branded as a foreign agent by authority figures and useful idiots such as my leading detractor on this message board.
 
Musburger1 said:
Those who point this out or question the narrative are then held up to ridicule or branded as a foreign agent by authority figures and useful idiots such as my leading detractor on this message board.
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You're held up as a foreign agent because every stance you take is pro-Russia and anti-US. Even the fairly obvious criticisms of Putin get met with a defense of the indefensible. It gives credibility to Hornfans that Web Brigades feels it's important enough to dedicate their resources.
 
This was done in 2013. Turkey was complicit for sure. I believe the US, Saudis, and Qatar were also involved.
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Gee, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, our close allies, would they ever really do such a thing? :rolleyes:
 
Even the fairly obvious criticisms of Putin get met with a defense of the indefensible.​

Putin's ability to remain rationale under fire is the primary constraint standing between a direct confrontation with Russia following the impulsive missile attack last week. You ought to be thrilled he is the current President, because there are political forces within Russia that are much more prone to push retaliation.
 
I can only imagine if you were around when the Russians swore up and down they weren't placing nukes in Cuba.

I can just hear the "American warmongers want to start World War 3 over fake intel on Russian escalation in Cuba". :rolleyes1:

Russia has an immense history of vehemently denying almost every secretive, controversial military action they've taken the last many decades.

With Cuba and nuclear holocaust on the table, they fought to the death proclaiming innocence until we produced satellite photos and caught them with their pants down.

I get you admire, trust, and promote Russia while damning America as conspiratorial warmongers. But in reality you're backing the integrity of a horse with one of the worst track records of military deceit possible.
 
The evidence since 2000 shows America is run by lying, warmongers that have contaminated much of the Middle East with depleted uranium among other atrocities. Should I recite the list again of illegal wars waged under false pretenses? And Russia is not the USSR. It isnt a communist country. Good grief man, open your eyes.
 
Musburger1 said:
And Russia is not the USSR. It isnt a communist country. Good grief man, open your eyes.
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You really think Russia is run much differently behind the scenes with a high ranking ex-KGB operative as its unopposed, Authoritarian leader? Wake up, Bro. smh

That being said, I won't disagree with your take on U.S. leadership this century.
 
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