THE "FACE VALUE" SAGE CONTINUES

yelladawgdem

yelladawgdem

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In my mind, the "face value" of a ticket is what it has always been........i.e., the agreed amount between a willing buyer and a willing seller. Believe that is called Capitalism, but I digress. But given that many of us season ticket holders of the last 4 decades have different prices "stamped" on our tickets than the people sitting next to us have stamped on their tickets, I, like many, am perplexed.

However I decided to investigate it a bit further. (It is part of what people love about me.) If you go to the UT ticket office on line, you can look up the "face value" of tickets that are commensurate with the tickets that you hold. In my case, I hold "Tier II" tickets. According to the Athletic Ticket Office, which it would seem to me to be the definitive source as to the "face value" of tickets, I came across the following information. The price for Tier II tickets to the Rice, Cal-Berkeley and Oklahoma State games are all $100 for that Tier. The price for the non-September home games, K-State, the Rock Chalks and Tech appear to still be top secret, likely known only to Steve and other ...........beings.

I am hopeful that this information will prove helpful to the thousands of ticket holders off all stripes. And may I again mention how much I miss Deloss Dodds.
 
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Thanks for doing the research
StevieP's reasoning for arresting any Not For Resale ticketholders attempt to sell tickets to games they can't attend is that they were selling them for more than market value which has been defined by Stevie P for some games a $100.00
What if, as has been the case for years, the Not For resale ticket holders sell at less than $100.00, BELOW market value.

As with many of StevieP's decisions this shows not much thought was put into a decision.
 
Stevie P,

You are always good for the joke of the day. Briles was never considered, never offered an interview by your precious KornFairy. One interview, one offer, all in all done! Powers humped the puppy on the only coach truly provided an interview and KornFairy was never and will never be considered a negotiator for his services.

Real schools, real programs, real administrations, and real ADs don't need the likes of KornFairy or little Chuckie NeinASS to do the job they are paid to do.
 
yelladawgdem said:
In my mind, the "face value" of a ticket is what it has always been........i.e., the agreed amount between a willing buyer and a willing seller. Believe that is called Capitalism, but I digress.
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What you're describing is "market value" and "face value" is what's printed on the ticket.
 
SabreHorn said:
Banana,

Why is the value I paid greater than what is printed on the ticket?
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Why is my total home ownership cost more than just the mortgage? It's just the way things are, and we're free to partake in these purchases.

If the donation was wrapped into the ticket, you would lose tax deductions and other benefits.

No matter what, that doesn't change the definition of face value nor market value.
 
Banana,

I have never expected my donation to be included in ticket value, I was asking why the $100 I was charged for the ticket is not the amount printed on the ticket as has always been the case for 45 years
 
SabreHorn said:
Banana,

Why is the value I paid greater than what is printed on the ticket?
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SabreHorn said:
Banana,

I have never expected my donation to be included in ticket value, I was asking why the $100 I was charged for the ticket is not the amount printed on the ticket as has always been the case for 45 years
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Sorry, I misread what you were saying. You have Tier I tickets, at $100/game, and your ticket face value is less? What does your face value say?
 
As the OP let me re-state my own, personal thought. And that is simply that in the real world, Market Value and Face Value are ALWAYS the same thing. Semantics is the only difference.

And if the argument is to be made that Tier I, II, et. al. are "priced" as they are because of the LHF donation amount, then why can I walk up to the ticket window today and buy a Tier I or Tier II ticket that requires no such donation. As a Charter Member I can state that I have NEVER claimed any part of my donation on my taxes. I did not donate to lessen by taxable burden, I donated to the University that my family loves, for the same reason that I hold the door open for old people and say thank you when I know that someone is a Veteran. Because it is the right damn thing to do. I may be the only person that can say that, but you know, I doubt it.
 
yelladawgdem said:
As the OP let me re-state my own, personal thought. And that is simply that in the real world, Market Value and Face Value are ALWAYS the same thing. Semantics is the only difference.
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So, if the dollar says a dollar, it's worth a dollar? If you walk in to a store, the face value of the item for sale is always market value? Sorry, I stopped reading after this sentence. Face and market value are very different entities.
 
Banana,

Sorry, a ticket is a ticket. Tiers are reserved for what I shed when Powers hired Patterson. Their should be NO TIERS! Only tickets, all similarly priced. My tickets are ninety something on face. This guy continues to institute and use worthless ******** that may be necessary at ******** schools, but it seems that's what Patterson is making us.

That was not a tornado coming through, but rather the OU athletic department blowing by us. Can T Bone be far behind?
 
SabreHorn said:
Banana,

Sorry, a ticket is a ticket. Tiers are reserved for what I shed when Powers hired Patterson. Their should be NO TIERS! Only tickets, all similarly priced. My tickets are ninety something on face. This guy continues to institute and use worthless ******** that may be necessary at ******** schools, but it seems that's what Patterson is making us.

That was not a tornado coming through, but rather the OU athletic department blowing by us. Can T Bone be far behind?
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No, a ticket isn't just a ticket. My tickets right on the field will fetch more than some upper deck endzone tickets. Tickets aren't just tickets. A hundred dollar bill is more than a one dollar bill -- for now -- bills aren't just bills.

Their = possessive
They're = They are
there = adverb
 
Sorry for the grammatical error. Having been married for many years to a lady with a BS in Secondary Education from Texas with an emphasis in English, I am a grammar freak. Should have caught that.

That aside, am I wrong that all tickets were same value over the last umpteen years? Speaking of purchase price not street value.
 
SabreHorn said:
Sorry for the grammatical error. Having been married for many years to a lady with a BS in Secondary Education from Texas with an emphasis in English, I am a grammar freak. Should have caught that.

That aside, am I wrong that all tickets were same value over the last umpteen years? Speaking of purchase price not street value.
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I am not trying to be an ***. I am sorry for coming off that way. My wife is an educator -- a mathematician -- you should feel sorry for me. :)
 
Not a problem. My 7th and 8th grade English teacher was a lady named Mrs Thurman. Lest liked teacher in the area, but she taught you grammar. She had us diagraming Francis Bacon sentences at that time. I hated her, but in retrospect, she may have been the best teacher I ever had. Diagramming and conjugating verbs - a lost art.
 
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