The Church committee didn't go far enough

So, it's been understood in the IC that wikileaks and Assange are merely fronts for the FSB. Does that mean that zerohedge now falls into that category?
 
OUBubba said:
So, it's been understood in the IC that wikileaks and Assange are merely fronts for the FSB. Does that mean that zerohedge now falls into that category?
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About a month ago the Washington Post ran their story listing some 200 "fake news" internet sites, among which was Zerohedge. Make up your own mind.
 
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I'd be more apt to put them into the real news category if Tyler Durden wasn't their writer.
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Probably 90% of the articles posted on Zerohedge are sourced elsewhere. It's merely a convenient location to read news or opinions that otherwise might be difficult to find.
 
On this topic, I'm struggling to be amazed at the discovery that the CIA has capabilities in cyber espionage and counter-espionage. I'd be more surprised if they didn't have this capability. Does anyone think Russia lacks this capability?
 
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You give a few sociopaths unlimited power with no transparency and no accountability and you are asking for all kinds of trouble. That pretty much sums it up.
 
Musburger1 said:
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You give a few sociopaths unlimited power with no transparency and no accountability and you are asking for all kinds of trouble. That pretty much sums it up.
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By that definition, Putin is the most corrupt person in the world. On that we agree. :yes:
 
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Probably 90% of the articles posted on Zerohedge are sourced elsewhere.
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This is a common mistake I'm noticing a ton these days in the propaganda war. People are reading stories sourced from other sites and attributing them to the site they found it. They then determine it's validity based on the reputation of the site they read it at.

Exactly what happened with the latest Flynn development. WSJ reported 'sources' said Flynn seeks immunity. Every other MSM site and their grandma ran with it and sourced the WSJ. Public began hyperventilating and accepting it as fact due to the sheer volume of sites claiming the same thing. When in reality only the WSJ made the claim.
 
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He may not be a sociopath but he's a ruthless dictator, and, rumored to be the richest man in the world.
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Funny fact. Putin officially files public disclosure paperwork in Russia about his wealth. In those forms his income is $119k/yr, he owns 1-2 modest apartments, shares ownership of a 2-car garage, has a '60s classic car, a moped, and a 900 acre undeveloped parcel of land in the countryside. That's it. He's a very modest man...except that's a facade. There was one estimate that Putin may be the wealthiest man in the world, double the wealth of Bill Gates.

Yes, power corrupts. Musberger often gives credit to Putin for cracking down on the oligarchs which he did. The question is why and how and what was the result? Putin and his cronies BECAME the oligarchs.
 
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The CIA has to be the most evil organization on the planet.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...-disguises-their-hacks-russian-chinese-arabic
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Protecting democracy and the greatest country that has ever existed is not easy. A simple reading of the history of communism, the Soviet Union, the actions of hundreds of other bat **** crazy dictators like Putin, and Muslim zealots would help give you insight into the actions of the CIA. Sending flowers, presenting "reset" buttons, and operating under the assumption that we can win hearts and minds doesn't get the job done.
 
iatrogenic said:
Protecting democracy and the greatest country that has ever existed is not easy. A simple reading of the history of communism, the Soviet Union, the actions of hundreds of other bat **** crazy dictators like Putin, and Muslim zealots would help give you insight into the actions of the CIA. Sending flowers, presenting "reset" buttons, and operating under the assumption that we can win hearts and minds doesn't get the job done.
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The CIA has been undermining democracy for decades by overthrowing elected leaders and installing dictators all around the world. How misinformed are you?
 
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The CIA has been undermining democracy for decades by overthrowing elected leaders and installing dictators all around the world. How misinformed are you?
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If undermining democracy is bad, your whole reason for existence is further in question.

The answer is simple: don't nationalize our property, accept welfare from communists or dictators that seek to influence your politics, and tread lightly with socialists. Go with the free market and democracy to the fullest extent possible.
 
iatrogenic said:
If undermining democracy is bad, your whole reason for existence is further in question.

The answer is simple: don't nationalize our property, accept welfare from communists or dictators that seek to influence your politics, and tread lightly with socialists. Go with the free market and democracy to the fullest extent possible.
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Nationalize "Our property?" There is no "our." What you have is a dispute between PRIVATE corporations and sovereign countries. You and I do not own Exxon, Dole, or Chiquita banana. When the CIA overthrows a government it isn't to protect anything you are I "own." As usual, you are way out of reality.
 
Musburger1 said:
Nationalize "Our property?" There is no "our." What you have is a dispute between PRIVATE corporations and sovereign countries. You and I do not own Exxon, Dole, or Chiquita banana. When the CIA overthrows a government it isn't to protect anything you are I "own." As usual, you are way out of reality.
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Actually, millions of us do own those companies via retirement accounts or direct investment. Nationalization of assets is not a "dispute", it is theft by force.

"People" are behind all governments and companies. When one group of people takes something they don't own from another, it is called "stealing".

The CIA takes many forms of action not related to nationalization of our people's property, but those actions are related to the interests of the people of the USA.
 
Joseph Palmi: Let me ask you something... we Italians, we got our families, and we got the church; the Irish, they have the homeland, Jews their tradition; even the niggers, they got their music. What about you people, Mr. Wilson, what do you have?
Edward Wilson: The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.
 
iatrogenic said:
Actually, millions of us do own those companies via retirement accounts or direct investment. Nationalization of assets is not a "dispute", it is theft by force.

"People" are behind all governments and companies. When one group of people takes something they don't own from another, it is called "stealing".

The CIA takes many forms of action not related to nationalization of our people's property, but those actions are related to the interests of the people of the USA.
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So as a private company do you sue, have the government bomb the country, or clandestinely arrange a coup? I guess arranging a coup is the best way to achieve democracy, right?
 
Hmmm...let me see.....how do we remove a Dictator hell bent on power that controls the economy and military.....
 
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