The Big Question: re, offense

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orangecat1

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Rick Barnes has been here long enough that I'm sure if he wants to stay and retire with an administrative job he probably can.

But he could really elevate this program to an elite level, imo, if he improved the offense and late-game situations.

Will Rick hire an offensive guru? I'm guessing Rick's too old and set in his ways to learn how to coach offense at this point, so he either:

a. refuses to hire an offensive assistant and coaches out the string for the next
several years, and retires with an admin. job

or

b. hires an offensive specialist, takes us to the elite 8 2 or 3 times in the next five years, and then retires. He is 58 years old now.

I do not understand how Belmont can let him choose a.; especially when a guy like me who can watch only half the games or less because of LHN, and I can see his coaching acumen on display like today's 1st half and the end of today's game.

The one and done players is a separate issue but I'm starting to wonder if the players think they might not develop because of Barnes' reputation as an offensive coach?

iow, if you're Brown, are you going to get any better because of Barnes' offensive coaching and schemes?

If you're Kabongo, are you going to get faster to the hoop, and commit less turnovers because of being in this offensive system?
 
Saw this on a Mizzou site right after Frank Haith was hired. Right now, best I can tell flipping channels the past couple of days on the four stations showing the tournament, Missouri is getting nods to make it to the Final Four. I like their ball movement and passing acumen. Smart, fast, heads-up play, and the ball always getting to the basket. Linky

Would this be a good fit for the "next future" of the Longhorns program?

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I don't think the issue is the offensive set right now. He made some changes last year that were positive. Right now he's got a bunch of freshmen that are essentially having to play a donut offense with no legitimate post presence.

I'd love to see Frank come back if/when Rick steps down, but that's a ways off, I imagine.
 
Haven't we been told for years that Barnes' offense lives and dies based on a point guard? Well, Texas had (supposedly) the top 1 or 2 point guard recruit in the country this year and he was somewhat of a disaster.

On the flip side, if Kabongo comes back AND we get Ridley, aren't we going to win at least 50% more of the close games that we lost this year?
 
The lack of any of our post guys to finish consistently around the basket this season was a killer. That being said it seems to me that this team was better suited to play up tempo and press all over the court. This rarely happened this year.

Early in the season there was a clip on the LHN which showed Barnes coaching at practice and he states, "We're not trying to run an offense, we're trying to score". That quote may have been taken out of context as it was a 30-second commercial and that was the only statement. When I heard that it struck me as a problem because you have to have an offense and an offensive philosophy to score.
 
I don't know about that, in today's 2nd half, after all of those three pointers, I was so ready to see a drive to the bucket and dish to Chapman, and darned if the 'horns didn't actually have success; I'm talking about that late dunk, Chapman's last points as a horn.

The team had Cincinatti totally outfoxed at that point, but I guess somebody told the team to make sure they didn't pass it to Chapman again because he didn't touch the ball again until we were behind by 5 or 6.

This is what I'm talking about, no clue. The Bearcats were totally surprised when Chapman went straight to the hoop; it actually happened twice, once Chapman missed the short one but somebody got the offensive rebound and put it back.

We were basically 100% in the 2nd half; big man going to the hoop after all of those 3 pointers, and Barnes refused to try it again.

All we had to do was mix up the strategy, drive a little, shoot a little, a few good passes, etc. Instead we stand around and jack up a three after standing around!!
 
that's interesting that Barnes said he's not trying to run an offense, I agree with him, he's not. I don't know what he's doing, but his time to be in charge of a successful offense is up, imo.
 
The point was that the post players did not consistently finish. Chapman was the best at finishing and how many easy shots did it seem like he missed (just look at the missouri game in the B12 tourney) as well as others. Wangmene seemed to have about a 30% chance of even catching a pass and less catching controlling it and scoring. Again consistently. Over the course of the year it makes the other players reluctant to pass the ball into the post, which compounds the problem because the passer would at the very least hesitate before making the pass, if at all, and the opportunity is lost. Just look at the difference inside last year with Tristan Thompson who was a very good finisher even if he couldn't shoot FT's and it opened things up for the drive and mid-range jumpers.
 
I understand what you are saying, but today for example, at that point in time, when you've done it correctly two times(not in a row, but relatively close), and you're staring at a zone defense, and the Bearcats are daring you to throw the ball into Chapman, and the refs were calling it tight, just like we needed it called tight, .....

YOu've got to THROW THE BALL IN THERE! Because you can't survive the entire half on threes. Or at least throw the ball in there to at least give the 'cats the impression we're gonna do something inside. Don't just stand there and jack a three. This is so frustrating.
 
No argument here. The only thing this team seemed to do consistently was make bad decisions in crunch time. I thought Barnes made a huge mistake when he called the timeout when the game was tied and we had the ball. Before the timeout we were in a flow offensively and defensively. After the timeout, they swithced to a zone and they stood around like a deer in the headlight until Brown turned the ball over. They never got the flow back. Barnes timeout destroyed our momentum and I think got into the heads of the players.
 
Kyle O'Quinn, Senior on team that beat Missouri-- the Norfolk State SpartansSenior. 6' 10" 240 lbs
Was offered only one scholarship. Took it.
Today after the game, told on-court reporter he played at Norfolk State to help them win a title (they won the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference Tournament) to repay them with gratitude for the scholarship. Said he wanted to give something back to the coach, the players, the school.

He looks much bigger and stronger than even James Thomas. He's a real man. A man among boys. His presence as a big inside was too much for MIssouri.

In my book, O'Quinn is a real man. But not just on court -- in his heart, in his character.

Count me a fan of men such as O'Quinn.
 
The Chapman roll to the basket was very nice to see, and I agree with the poster who said Cincy was surprised to see it. Big men hardly every roll to the hoop in Barnes' offense. Thats a problem.
 
Yeah, we almost always have a post player designed as our screener, but even when ours guards use the screen well, which they often don't, the screener usually just rolls to the wing, so it's pretty easy to defend.
 
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