The Ball's in Missouri's Court

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XOVER

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Now that the aggy has been "officially" accepted into the SEC, the big question becomes: Does the SEC take Missouri or West Virginia at number 14?

Does this put Ken "Mad Dog" Starr on the clock, or is he muzzled so long as Missouri doesn't go to the SEC?

There's this, according to South Carolina President Pastides:
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I also believe that this conference is so screwed up it can't be saved. It is clear Missouri has had enough of Texas and they are hell bent in getting out of the Big-12. They just have to figure out a way to leave without Baylor or Iowa State taking Missouri to court.

Heck, if you want to be honest about it, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State probably want to leave as bad as Missouri. I can't see Missouri signing any long-term Big-12 agreement. Missouri certainly has no interest in hanging around for five or six more years under contract.

There's just no way for this conference to survive with the Longhorn Network. Stick a fork in the Big-12, we're done.
 
That "Big 10" ball was in their court since Carter was president and we say how interested the Big 10 was a year ago.
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Well, of course, you are right, yelladawgdem, but last year Missouri actually dribbled that Big 10 ball. Ooops, turnover to Nebraska.

This year they've got the SEC ball, or so some say.
 
Missouri could be used as a chip to get Big 12 schools to drop legal claims over A&M leaving. Either way, I think the SEC is going to try to let someone else raid the Big 12 and be the one that 'breaks the conference up' so they have an argument that 'it was not us'
 
According to Aggie Websider (David Sandhop), Mizzou has an SEC offer and had a deadline of tomorrow.

However, Mizzou couldn't get all the preliminaries done so Slive moved the deadline out to next Wednesday, with the Curators meeting next Tuesday.

I guess the whole B12 conference PTBs are basically frozen until next week when they find out what Mizzou is going to do.

FWIW, Chip Brown is essentially echoing Websider:
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If Missouri leaves, this conference can't be saved. Losing four of the conference's twelve members in less than two years should convince even the most clueless person that this conference has problems that apparently can't be solved (UT & the Longhorn Network).
 
I had gotten bits and pieces of the Neinas' interview from various places, but I couldn't link to it until now. So, thanks.

Neinas' sounds more hopeful than anything else, best I can tell.

What I find interesting is this business:
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I found this fascinating analysis of the cost to schools like A&M and Missouri for leaving the Big 12.

Apparently the Big 12 rules are big mish-mash with conflicting provisions, and questionable meanings. Consider the words of the NU Chancellor from last year:
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I just don't see any way the Big-12 will get Missouri to sign any binding agreement for six years. It is not going to happen. If the SEC offers Missouri, they are gone. So, then we move to add tiny fan bases like Rice, SMU, and other patsies to replace a Missouri. Good luck UT getting BCS votes when you need them.
 
Interesting, XOVER. I also saw that Mizzou Chancellor "Deaton recused himself from part of Big 12 Board Meeting yesterday on advice of legal counsel" at some guy's twitter page. I wonder what that means . . .

Anyway, as much as I would like this to be the back-breaking straw, I'm guessing the BigXII will stay cobbled-together with mid-mehjors.

Hook'em
 
One thing is certain, a move by Missouri to the SEC makes the Big-12 more of a joke. How the hell do you replace the Missouri TV market with a Louisville, West Virginia, TCU, etc? And what does the loss of the Missouri TV market do to our future Big-12 TV contract? UT, how much more of this can you take before you have to leave?
 
This morning in a 104.9 radio interview, DMN's Chuck Carlton predicted Mizzou to SEC, that groundswell from supporters too much for Curators (who are elected officials) to ignore. Chuck's twitter feed is here.

Curators start meeting today at noon but won't go into closed executive session until 4pm.
 
As I understand it, the MO BOC decided to allow Deaton to explore options with all other conferences, is that right?

Deaton also stepped down as Chairman of Big 12 BOR, correct?

Man, it's too far-fetched, but I would love to see the B1G take MO after all.

You know, if the B1G took MO, OU, and UT, the B1G would be contiguous.
 
that works for me xover, someone call up the big televewelveixteen commish and get the ball rolling
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How in the world could the B1G logically diss MU this year? I mean, really. Think about it. Time has changed. Big-time conference realignment is now upon us with this MU announcement tonight.

MU is a fine, fine school. It's AAU. The B1G loves that.

Plus, MU draws over 61,000 per game, regular as clockwork. MU also has massive influence in the St. Louis and Kansas City markets.

Look at the map. Why would the B1G allow the SEC to take MU when the State of MO is like a knife cutting into B1G territory. It would be foolish in the extreme for the B1G to ignore what MU just announced tonight.

There aren't that many schools that average over 60,000 per game with the market influence that MU has. Sometimes WV draws over 60, but they generally average around 57. BYU draws around 62. Other than OU and Texas, of the schools out there for the pickins, MU and BYU are the only schools that average over 60,000 per contest. Period. Plus MU is AAU, and BYU and WV not.

MU made it quite clear today that it isn't going to stay in the Big 12. MU is going away.

I don't hesitate if I'm Delany. It would be foolish to let MU slide off to the SEC until the end of time. I wouldn't let it happen. Interesting times are upon us.

The ball continues to be in MU's court.
 
I am so sick of this.

So, what happens next? Dominoes start falling or does the Big12 try to expand with BYU and whoever?
 
The Big 12 should just go ahead and kick Missouri out now and add some schools that want to be here.
 
Well, several things could happen, dusthorn.

First, MU has to decide what it wants to do. Obviously MU doesn't feel like the B12 is stable. Probably MU goes to the SEC. Maybe MU is approached by the B1G before it goes to the SEC. Time will tell.

As for the B12, I doubt it "goes away." The B12 will probably add BYU and some other small-time mid-majors like, Louisville, Cincinnati, and so forth. If Texas decides to play sports with a bunch of schools that don't command TV and draw 30 to 50 in the stands, then Texas will do that. That's not really "big-time football", but to each his own.

My personal belief is that, yes, the dominoes start falling. There aren't really that many important dominoes, however. There's Texas, Notre Dame and Oklahoma. Once those are gone, the the ACC may or may not lose a few teams. Then, for all intents and purposes, realignment comes to an end.

Here's 3 scenarios for Texas, all of which you've seen before:

PAC: TX, TT, OU, OSU. Texas LHN is gutted.
B1G: TX, ND. Doubtful OU. LHN is changed significantly, but still recognizable.
SEC: TX & OU. Unsure how LHN affected.
ACC: I just don't think so.

TXSNOS: It's easy to say "kick out MU," but think about that. There are bills to pay, do you know that? Texas has bills to pay? You can't just plug in any old rinky-dink two-bit schools that "want to be in the B12" and expect Texas to stay financially solvent in the long run.

While many drool at the opportunity to be in a conference with TCU, Houston, SMU, New Mexico, Air Force, Boise State and the others, good luck paying the bills with that attitude. Because all you will be doing is taking Texas' money and handing it over to the Boise State's. They are not going to make Texas any money. It will be a one-way street.

My personal guess is that the B12 goes on in name, but Texas and OU will take leave of the conference for school that are like them, that put serious people in the stands, and that draw boucoup television viewers.

More likely, the loss of MU, which draws a solid 61+ with some impressive markets, will be the beginning of the end for Texas (and OU) in the B12. But who knows? Texas really wants to get the LHN off the ground.
 
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