Tea Party vs. Occupy Movement

Horn89

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I think it's sad that both the Tea Party movement and the Occupy movement have been hijacked from within and marginalized from the outside. The basic ideas of each movement have merit.

Tea Party: reduce government spending, smaller government, renewed emphasis on the Constitution
Occupy: end corporate personhood, reduce corporate influence, reduce the growing gap between the top 1% and the average American worker.

I would humbly suggest that these two agendas aren't that different from one another. That is, the reason our government spends so much ******* money is because the drug companies wrote the prescription drug law, the bankers wrote the bailout, the oil companies dictate our energy policy, etc, etc. All of those laws were written by corporations for corporations, and they involve massive transfers of wealth from the American taxpayer to their own pocketbooks, both directly and through subsidies and tax breaks.

In the past 10 years, both the Republicans and the Democrats have enjoyed strong majorities in both houses plus the presidency. Each party had a chance to end the corruption and the runaway spending, but neither did it (though the Republicans are incredibly fiscally conservative right up until the moment that they're handed the purse strings). It should be obvious to anyone who's paying attention that there's no one in DC who is actively pursuing things that are fair, and things that make our nation strong.

Anyone who is foolish enough to think that either party is "right" is part of the problem, as is anyone who votes for a major party candidate (with rare exception... e.g. Ron Paul).
 
Horn89, most of what you say I do agree with, except as Satch noted, the piece about Paul. I think in your attempt at being non-partisan, you're waxing over some FUNDAMENTAL FACTS:

The Tea Baggers act all shocked about the debt and deficit, but where were they for 8 years? Record surpluses were turned into deficits, we were taken into an idiotic war that cost us in both treasure and lives, the wealth gap kept increasing, BUT nary a peep from these jokers.

Then, barely a few days into the Obama presidency, they show up. Show up with hateful signs, unabashed vitriol and anger, even towards a civil rights icon like John Lewis.

They didn't even bother when the debt limit was never an issue to hold the entire country hostage but they did, under Obama.

And now, with the country facing severe economic hardship, they'll do everything they can to not pass anything that will help the citizens, because that will only help Obama. In other words, the tea bag clowns win, when America loses.

I'm not a fan of the occupy wall street clowns either, but atleast their motives and their makeup is far more benign than the thugs of the tea party.
 
Talk about Bizarro World. It literally freaks me out that someone not diagnosed with a mental illness can be that disconnected from reality.

Wow!
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The same can be said about Ron Paul supporters. Not all, just the ones who come out in public with signs. You get the guys at the Hydroponic store on Burnet with a big sign as well as Shaggy and crew on bridges over 35. There they are at rush hour all scruffy and looking like they just smoked out holding Vote For Ron Paul signs.

Same for the Occupy Austin wankers on the bridge today at 12th St. and I35. They are not wankers for being part of Occupy, they are wankers because they are wankers. I would not want them alone with my bag of Dorito's or container of cake frosting NOR being seen supporting me as a candidate or political movement.
 
I'm not a fan of the occupy wall street clowns either, but atleast their motives and their makeup is far more benign than the thugs of the tea party.
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more benign? violence and revolution? you are a moron
 
The country would most definitely be bankrupt right now if not for the Tea Party. They may look goofy on television but they quite literally saved our ash at least temporarily by putting the brakes on the socialist locamotive known as the Obama administration.
 
The Tea Baggers act all shocked about the debt and deficit, but where were they for 8 years?

Exactly. They are shocked, shocked to find deficits going on....
 
Perham and Roger -- please allow me to try to paraphrase your ideas. Please let me know where I'm wrong.

"Now it is our turn to create record debt, and everyone needs to let it happen and quit complaining."
 
Your paraphrasing is quite wrong. You have to be trying to be that wrong.

Here's a hint: partisan hypocrisy.

Just because your ideas are shallow (as reflected in your "paraphrase") does not mean my ideas are shallow.
 
There's so much BS from the left on this topic I don't even feel like addressing it. But let me say you have to be a complete f%cking retard if you think for one second that the good of the country is for those idiots that have close to a thousand arrest vs the Tea Party that had zero arrest to be protesting. They are supported by Obama who is in the pocket of the Unions and received more money from Wall Street in his campaign.

Just a simple question. What is a fair share for the 1% to pay in taxes? Just give me a percentage of what they should pay? .
 
There should be no rich, no one should strive to make a million because if you do then millions will want what you have. Everyone just kick back get fired and draw unemployment for a few years .. .......o
 
seems to me that one of the major differences between the groups is that with the Tea Party if you work your *** off, make something of yourself and become a succesful high income earner, you've done a great job and are told good job. But with the occupy movement if you do the same thing, you are then an evil person who has no soul.

I know I'm working my *** off right now, and in 5 years when my company is making some money I shouldn't have to pay a butt load in taxes to "pay my fair share".

I'd say go get a job to the occupiers, but I don't hire dumbasses, and they wouldn't want to work hard anyway!
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In the real world it is possible to work your *** off, make something of yourself and never be a high income earner. Many of these types are called 99 percenters.
 
Actually it looks like your definition would be the top 1 percent of earners, judging from your earlier post. My response to that would be 1. you are absolutely right, and 2. since when does anyone have a right to exoect that if they work hard they will earn in the top 1 percent?
 

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