Take That, Alissa Rosenbaum!

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www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/health/01well.html?ref=health

Helping others makes you feel good.

When Cami Walker of Los Angeles learned three years ago that she had multiple sclerosis, her health and her spirits plummeted — until she got an unusual prescription from a holistic health educator.

Ms. Walker, now 36, scribbled the idea in her journal. And though she dismissed it at first, after weeks of fatigue, insomnia, pain and preoccupation with her symptoms, she decided to give it a try. The treatment and her experience with it are summed up in the title of her new book, “29 Gifts: How a Month of Giving Can Change Your Life” (Da Capo Press).

Ms. Walker gave a gift a day for 29 days — things like making supportive phone calls or saving a piece of chocolate cake for her husband. The giving didn’t cure her multiple sclerosis, of course. But it seems to have had a startling effect on her ability to cope with it. She is more mobile and less dependent on pain medication. The flare-ups that routinely sent her to the emergency room have stopped, and scans show that her disease has stopped progressing.

“My first reaction was that I thought it was an insane idea,” Ms. Walker said. “But it has given me a more positive outlook on life. It’s about stepping outside of your own story long enough to make a connection with someone else.”

And science appears to back her up. “There’s no question that it gives life a greater meaning when we make this kind of shift in the direction of others and get away from our own self-preoccupation and problems,” said Stephen G. Post, director of the Center for Medical Humanities, Compassionate Care and Bioethics at Stony Brook University on Long Island and a co-author of “Why Good Things Happen to Good People” (Broadway, 2007). “But it also seems to be the case that there is an underlying biology involved in all this.”

An array of studies have documented this effect. In one, a 2002 Boston College study, researchers found that patients with chronic pain fared better when they counseled other pain patients, experiencing less depression, intense pain and disability.

Another study, at the Buck Institute for Age Research in Novato, Calif., also found a strong benefit to volunteerism, and after controlling for a number of variables, showed that elderly people who volunteered for more than four hours a week were 44 percent less likely to die during the study period.


Why not start your month of giving today?
 
I was wondering where this went. I was about to post it on Cactus Cafe.

In case it helps, Alissa Rosenbaum was Ayn Rand's birth name in mother Russia.
 
I disagree with the conclusion you are drawing.

You seem to be pointing out that "giving" as in the case of Ms. Walker, actually provided therapeutic benefits to her health.

This not only fails to repudiate Alissa Rosenbaum's, (aka Ayn Rand's), philosophy, but actually provides another data point of support.

You do see that, don't you?
 
To further the dialogue, perhaps you don't really understand Rand's Objectivism.

She is not against private "giving" as long as it is done completely freely.

What she objects to, (no pun intended), is "forced giving", because that isn't really "giving" - it's "taking".

In the story you relate, no one is forcing Ms. Walker to "give", but your point that in so doing, she received back a personal benefit to her health is a very succinct anecdote on the benefits/effects of personal liberty vs. statism.

Do you think her health would have benefited from Uncle Sam adding a tax equal to her monthly expenditures of what she "gives" and then deciding for her where to bestow it?
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Speaking of Ayn Rand, I've been meaning to re-read 'Atlas Shrugged', but I haven't motivated myself to pick up the 1000 page book and give it another go.
 
I urge you to do it. It's a slog, but well worth it. I reread it a few years ago, and just recently reread The Fountainhead.

I also recommend We The Living. Much shorter. It is more of a novel, and less of a philosophical treatise but it remains a starkly riveting window into the early tumultuous throes of Communist Russia by someone who fled.

Love her.
 
It's interesting to see Perham mistake Ayn Rand, and the correction.

Charity is in fact a "selfish" act- and it took me awhile to understand that as well. We give to others because of the good feeling it gives us- and there is a benefactor in the case which is of course a good thing. Ayn Rand is in no way against helping those who are in need of help. Her philosophy you could attribute more to economics and politics, not those with physical disabilities.
 
2 things. Giving can be selfless and selfish, and it can be a mixture of reasons for why we give... Of course it could be that the good feelings we get are just a fringe benefit, but not the main reason in giving.

It appears to be Mrs. Walker from the article.
 
So you are saying that the only"good" reason to do good is because of an obligation?

And doing "good" because it makes you "feel good" is a bad thing?

Sorry, but that's simply ridiculous.
 
OK. You want to keep arguing semantics on this thread too, then I'll play.

The poster did NOT say that the "only way anyone ever commits an act of charity is because they selfishly want to feel good from having done so".

Instead, what he said was that we do charity because it makes us feel good. Perhaps he should have said, "I believe that many people only do charity..."

Would you find yourself making your same argument with that statement?

As for Jewish traditions, millions of empty seats are set for seder, but Elijah has never shown up yet.
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(And yes, I used "millions" and "never" in the same sentence!)
 

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