Stuff you just don't believe..

El Sapo

El Sapo

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For me personally, I don't believe people (usually overly idealistic / romantic vegetarian types) when they try to tell me that the Indians lived in such perfect harmony with nature that they always killed their game in such a way that it never suffered.

********. For starters, the Indians had few if any means at their disposal to dispatch a quick death to game animal.. especially a large one. Bows, spears, axes and traps all mean a not-so-instant death. Besides, If the difference between starvation and your family getting a life-sustaining high protein meal is a mile long chase across the prairie with you shooting arrow after arrow into an already gut shot Buffalo then that is sure as **** what you are going to do. If the difference between life and death for you and your people is a rabbit that suffers in your snare all night long with a broken leg, you are going to set that snare and eat that rabbit.

It's admirable to want to eliminate the suffering of food animals but it's also mindset you can only afford in a time of plenty. Indians lived much closer to hardship than we do and for that reason I think they did whatever they had to survive.
 
That both of the Kennedy brothers were assassinated by lone nuts who had no external assistance or pressure. Maybe it's true, but I'll never be able to believe it. And the weird thing is- when it comes to conspiracy theories, strange phenomena, etc., I am usually a skeptic and proud of it.

Except 9/11 was, by definition, a conspiracy.

"a secret agreement between two or more people [the hijackers] to perform an unlawful act"
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We should just round all of them Indians up and put 'em on reservations.
Actually, some early civilizations are thought to have died out due to depleting the arable environment around their permanent structures, like the central American Mayans and the cliff dwellers of Arizona.
So no, they weren't the perfect environmentalists some would portray them as.
But they didn't create Love Canal, Chernobyl, global warming, or eradicate the buffalo and passenger pigeon, either.
 
The Indian is not the issue here, Dude.
Also, Dude, Indian is not the preferred nomenclature. Native-American, please.
 
I took an elective on Native Americans and remember the teacher telling how early Indians would stampede buffalo off of cliffs, killing hundreds at a time, without regard to preservation.
 
anything resembling the truth from...
the government
politicians
political talk shows, including radio
aggy
sooners
les miles

...that humans will ever live in harmony, especially during election years and college football season
...that there isn't a god
...that with religion man hasn't royally screwed up the idea of god
...that gas can cost $3.50/gallon w/out some greedy ******** manipulating the price and getting extremely rich
...that i will never be on of those lucky greedy ********
...that people still support gw
...we didn't invade iraq for some made up f'ed up reasons
...that ***** can't cure the world's ills.
 
Indian v. Native American... are we really going to have that 'talk' here when the OP surely said Indian with the utmost respect?
 
- I don't believe that most of the "rules" in life really exist.
- I don't believe that the nature of the Divine is anything remotely like the vengeful, jealous and genocidal Old Testament God.
- I don't believe that I was weaving uncontrollably across those lanes when I got that ticket on New Years Eve that time.
- I don't believe that Robin Williams has been funny or interesting in a long time.
- I don't believe that stuff Dr. Budziszewski said about Rousseau.
- I don't believe that this thread will fail to deliver something sig-worthy pretty soon.
 
I don't believe in superstars,
Organic food and foreign cars.
I don't believe the price of gold;
The certainty of growing old.
That right is right and left is wrong,
That north and south can't get along.
That east is east and west is west.
And being first is always best.

But I believe in love.
I believe in babies.
I believe in Mom and Dad.
And I believe in you.

Well, I don't believe that heaven waits,
For only those who congregate.
I like to think of God as love:
He's down below, He's up above.
He's watching people everywhere.
He knows who does and doesn't care.
And I'm an ordinary man,
Sometimes I wonder who I am.

But I believe in love.
I believe in music.
I believe in magic.
And I believe in you.

Well, I know with all my certainty,
What's going on with you and me,
Is a good thing.
It's true, I believe in you.

I don't believe virginity,
Is as common as it used to be.
In working days and sleeping nights,
That black is black and white is white.
That Superman and Robin Hood,
Are still alive in Hollywood.
That gasoline's in short supply,
The rising cost of getting by.

But I believe in love.
I believe in old folks.
I believe in children.
I believe in you.

But I believe in love.
I believe in babies.
I believe in Mom and Dad.
And I believe in you.
 
I don't believe in superstars,
Organic food and foreign cars.
I don't believe the price of gold;
The certainty of growing old.
That right is right and left is wrong,
That north and south can't get along.
That east is east and west is west.
And being first is always best.

But I believe in love.
I believe in babies.
I believe in Mom and Dad.
And I believe in you.

Well, I don't believe that heaven waits,
For only those who congregate.
I like to think of God as love:
He's down below, He's up above.
He's watching people everywhere.
He knows who does and doesn't care.
And I'm an ordinary man,
Sometimes I wonder who I am.

But I believe in love.
I believe in music.
I believe in magic.
And I believe in you.

Well, I know with all my certainty,
What's going on with you and me,
Is a good thing.
It's true, I believe in you.

I don't believe virginity,
Is as common as it used to be.
In working days and sleeping nights,
That black is black and white is white.
That Superman and Robin Hood,
Are still alive in Hollywood.
That gasoline's in short supply,
The rising cost of getting by.

As Sung by Don Williams...The Gentle Giant from Portland, TX
 
Bull Durham
written by Ron Shelton

Annie: What do you believe in then?
Crash: Well, I believe in the soul. The cock. The *****. The small of a woman's back. The hanging curveball. High fiber. Good scotch. That the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a Constitution Amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas eve. And I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days...Goodnight. [He exits]
Annie (with a voice that could melt butter): Oh my.
 
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