So it looks like it's happening

BabHorn

BabHorn

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the Big 12 is breaking apart.

If the alignment is as most believe, BU is left out in the cold, but Texas gets to play the rest of the Big 12 south schools as well as add Stanford & UCLA on a rotation basis and Arizona State twice (?) yearly. This could be just as tough as the Big 12 was with Stanford the big gorilla at this time.
 
Wow! While I will miss seeing Bill Fennelly and the class act that is ISU every second year at the Erwin Center, if we get to go to the Pac10/16, we keep our rivalries with OU, Tech and A&M, and even though he had had our number for the last few years, Gary Blair is a fabulous coach. Playing Stanford will also be great. Sorry that we have to keep Budke, but at least no more loony Deb Patterson, and the magnificent Kendra Wecker is long gone. The Big 12 has been fun, but whether we end up in the Pac 10/16 - hooray! road trips to SF and LA and Seattle or the Big 10 - a much better academic and time-zone fit - though a little frigid - at least I never have to go to Waco again - the rudest fan base I have ever seen and I have been to a football game in Lubbock! The only time I have ever had anything thrown at me for wearing a Longhorn tee shirt was at a WCBB game at Baylor! While I will miss seeing KM's outfits and hystrionics 2x a year, the thought of no more half-wits paying Harvard prices for a second tier education with a smidgeon of Bible thrown in makes me smile. Bye bye Big 12 and bring on the future!!!
 
Too bad you feel that way. I have enjoyed coming on here and chatting with horn fans. I wish you all well in the new conference. We still have 2 more seasons of meeting up, so please do try to come back to Waco. Not all of us fans throw things
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As for the Lady Bears future, I think we will be just fine. Griner and company should keep us pretty solid for the next 3 years. Kim can recruit no matter where she lands.
 
I don't see the time zone issue being a real problem. Being in the Pac10-East (for lack of a better label right now), a majority of the games will be in the same time zone, with the every other year travels for a handful of games on the coast.

Recruiting could get very interesting as it will reopen eyes on the Left Coast to what Big12 schools were capable of doing...all of a sudden, some of those kids could still go half-way across the country and still be able to see their family on a semi-regular basis through the season.

Curious though....do we ditch the San Diego tourney in favor of something on the east coast so that there is a change of scenery? Or, given the stronger conference, do we ditch a second tourney alltogether?

Baylor WBB should fare ok given they will likely end up in a conference not noted for ny WBB powerhouses. Ditto for their men's team. And with Griner, they remain a viable presence on the media front even in a lesser conference...lack of even a good regional network could hurt them five to eight years down the road though...
 
not thrilled.....Recruiting into a mid tier conference will not be the same.

KIM MULKEY: "IT'S ABOUT GREED"
Asked for comments about the latest developments, Baylor Lady Bears basketball coach Kim Mulkey said: "This is a classic example of greed and the all-mighty dollar. It starts with people who make decisions at Nebraska and Texas. For people who talk about academics, this is not about what's in the best interest of each student-athlete or the Big 12. It's about money.
"People at universities always want to talk about academics, but this is not about academics. If it's about academics, Baylor would be included in an invite to the Pac-10. There are people who will be invited to the Pac-10 that Baylor has a better academic university than.
"It's about greed, and shame on people at the top. They don't need to preach another day about student-athletes."
 
Colorado's gone.

Soon, we will find out if the Big 12 stays or breaks up. If the Huskers also jump, the Big 12 is likely kaput. It would be sad to see it end but new horizons would beckon.
 
So what are the odds that Kim Mulkey jumps ship if Baylor goes to a mid-major conference? The big12 gave that school a good deal of money that I doubt they can replicate and the recruiting will most certainly take a hit.
 
KM is an excellent coach. She has three more years of Griner and her daughter will be a freshman in the Fall. As long as KM is the coach, Baylor will be nationally relevant, but how long can they afford to pay her around a $1 million a year, when their football team makes no money, and they get no cash from being in in an AQ BCS conference and their athletics program gets no television revenue. No-one can take 2005 from them, and Sophia Young was one of the best WCBB players I have ever seen. That said within a decade they are back in the cellar of whatever conference they end up in. With the possible exception of Mulkeyfan, this could not happen to a nicer fan base! Whatever happens in this conference shake down, never having a reason to visit the Ferrell Center - or whatever is called - again, is more than fine with me!
 
Mulkey is such a hypocrite. Does anyone really believe she would have made those same comments if Baylor HAD been invited to join the Pac 10?

Now, TCU is boycotting having Baylor extended an invitation to join the MWC. Payback is a you-know-what!
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Wonder how the conference schedule will be figured out? Big 12 played their division foes twice and the other division teams once for a total of 16 conference games. Pac 10 played each team twice for a total of 18 conference games.

If the Pac 16 comes to pass, it doesn't seem realistic to play each team twice. That would be 30 games right off the bat and not allow for very many OOC games. My guess would be a schedule similar to the Big 12. That would be 22 conference games. Of course, half of the other division's teams could be played only every other year while a team played their division foes twice. This would make for a 16 game conference season. Or they could play each team just once in conference play for 15 conference games. I like that one better--I think. Just means that we would not see some teams in Austin but once every two years.

If it happen, it will be interesting to see how this is drawn up. I do know there will be no road trips for me. It was tough enough making them when so many teams were in Texas.
 
Yeah, I have to agreee with Coale the Big 12 has a unique thing going on in WBB. Doubt we will see that in the Pac 10. If Texas does agree to go, and I still hope that Texas decides to stay, it's going to be rough on those students that play games twice a week, especially if they have a game that starts late.
 
KM would NOT have lashed out like that if Baylor was included in the original group of schools that were potentially moving to Pac 10. Yes it's about the money but that's not why she nearly popped out a diamond out her rear. As we all know Baylor was scared sh&tless they were gonna be left out and end up in sub tier conference with Oral Roberts, Abilene Christian, St. Mary's, etc. No offense to those schools.
 
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