Should some people be above the law?

Crockett

Crockett

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A lot of people must think it OK for a certain former president to use highly sensitive and classified documents as material to entertain party guests. I don't think anyone would say it was OK for Obama, Bush or Clinton to do that. But is Trump's leadership so vital weshoukd let him skirt the laws that are irritating to him. Can we implicitly trust him to look out for our national interest, laws, vote counts and tradition be damned. In other words should we become a nation of leaders instead of a nation of law?
 
Crockett said:
A lot of people must think it OK for a certain former president to use highly sensitive and classified documents as material to entertain party guests. I don't think anyone would say it was OK for Obama, Bush or Clinton to do that. But is Trump's leadership so vital weshoukd let him skirt the laws that are irritating to him. Can we implicitly trust him to look out for our national interest, laws, vote counts and tradition be damned. In other words should we become a nation of leaders instead of a nation of law?
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Biden and Hillary Clinton would be in jail by now if we were a nation of law.
 
I think you , and msm, miss the point. It's not that conservatives think Trump is above the law. It's the double standard being applied by the doj, fbi

I'm voting for DeSantis, don't want Trump. But to dismiss the obvious double standard, i would be okie dokie with tossing the constitution in the trash can. I'm not on board with that

And I think it's interesting you didn't include Biden in that list above. Why is that? As a vp he took documents home. And is caught red handed in the burisma scandal (if you only pay attention to msm that would explain the absence of facts on the matter)
 
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Crockett said:
A lot of people must think it OK for a certain former president to use highly sensitive and classified documents as material to entertain party guests.
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I don't. Trump is a blowhard dumbass who can't get out of his own way because of his ridiculously overinflated ego. He needs to get the hell away from politics and from the Republican party.

With that said, Joe BiteMe, Hillwilly, and others are just as guilty of mishandling classified information, and should be prosecuted just as vigorously as Trump. But they won't be, for the sole reason they carry a "D" behind their names.
 
Crockett said:
A lot of people must think it OK for a certain former president to use highly sensitive and classified documents as material to entertain party guests. I don't think anyone would say it was OK for Obama, Bush or Clinton to do that. But is Trump's leadership so vital weshoukd let him skirt the laws that are irritating to him. Can we implicitly trust him to look out for our national interest, laws, vote counts and tradition be damned. In other words should we become a nation of leaders instead of a nation of law?
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You really need to add a sarcasm alert or something else to illustrate you were attempting to be funny.

Or, if you were actually serious, at least provide an alert that you endorse double standards.
 
Did Biden have stacks of boxes of documents that the National Archives demand he return.? Did Biden cooperate with the FBI and DOJ.? Did Biden show off Classified documents to impress visitors? Maybe the offenses and level of cooperation are really very different, thus the interest in prosecution is really different.
 
Crockett said:
Did Biden have stacks of boxes of documents that the National Archives demand he return.? Did Biden cooperate with the FBI and DOJ.? Did Biden show off Classified documents to impress visitors? Maybe the offenses and level of cooperation are really very different, thus the interest in prosecution is really different.
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This response is basically saying yeah but his violation of law isn't exactly the same as what Trump did. It also contains a belief that Trump is bad and Biden good, so we should treat them differently. Biden is involved in enough things that have already gone public that it is the height of hypocrisy to claim he shouldn't be held accountable but Trump should.

If we are really following the law then I am for prosecuting ever single politician who has ever broken the law. That means the Constitution too. But no one is ever prosecuted for legal issues. They are prosecuted for political issues. I would even support that if it was fair to both sides. But it isn't. So I don't think Trump should be the only politician jailed for something many other people have done.
 
Crockett said:
Did Biden have stacks of boxes of documents that the National Archives demand he return.? Did Biden cooperate with the FBI and DOJ.? Did Biden show off Classified documents to impress visitors? Maybe the offenses and level of cooperation are really very different, thus the interest in prosecution is really different.
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You mean the boxes at multiple locations he was not authorized to have possessed, including some dating to SlowJoe's time as a Senator?

Cooperation should never mean that no Indictment issues. THAT is a double standard that libtiles and RINO's refuse to acknowledge.

Much as we have seen with Paxton, the libtiles and RINO's are scared of Trump and so they seek to tar him with all manner of crap that won't stick if the law is properly applied.
 
If Biden an be indicted, go for it. His handling of documents showed sloppiness and incompetence. He wasn't belligerent about it and that can make a difference in the minds of some prosecutors I've known on the local level. Not sure how that plays with the DOJ.
 
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If Biden an be indicted, go for it.
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Hoarding government documents that don't belong to him is the least charge possible in his case. Have you followed any of the recent discoveries of the burisma scandal ?

He's pocketed millions off influence peddling as vp. The fbi, cia ran interference with the Russian disinformation falsehood, the doj just goes after Trump

Double standard. Period
 
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Did Biden have stacks of boxes of documents that the National Archives demand he return.? Did Biden cooperate with the FBI and DOJ.? Did Biden show off Classified documents to impress visitors? Maybe the offenses and level of cooperation are really very different, thus the interest in prosecution is really different.
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Sirius??:idk:
 
Crockett said:
If Biden an be indicted, go for it. His handling of documents showed sloppiness and incompetence. He wasn't belligerent about it and that can make a difference in the minds of some prosecutors I've known on the local level. Not sure how that plays with the DOJ.
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Take 6 minutes to listen. Then tell me there isn't a double standard when it comes to the doj, fbi, etc. in regards to Biden vs Trump

 
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thanks for posting. WOW the FBI dude said the 287,000 people the FBI investigated were inadvertent queries.:lmao:
wonder if Croc will watch it.
 
Horn6721 said:
H2
thanks for posting. WOW the FBI dude said the 287,000 people the FBI investigated were inadvertent queries.:lmao:
wonder if Croc will watch it.
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He won't. If Xi-N-N or MSDNC doesn't cover it, it must not be true. As such it will be ignored and hand-waved away.
 
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He won't. If Xi-N-N or MSDNC doesn't cover it, it must not be true. As such it will be ignored and hand-waved away.
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I watched it. I don't routinely watch CNN, MSNBc, Fox or OAN because they are transparently biased and aimed more at the adrenal gland than the cerebral cortex. The story choices and spin are designed to piss me off...not make me think. I like reading for political information. It's more time efficient and it's easier to track attribution.
I watched the clip of Senator Hawley. I gotta say it was dramaric and makes me curious to know more. I'm not one who says he's our guy so his corruption is OK and understandable.
 
The fact that the left doesn't understand the danger of a politicized department of justice is amazing. American citizens now face a government that is not afraid to use the FBI and IRS to punish political differences. Surely you know better.
 
Did the Grand Jury who voted to indict Trump hear the video that Demx are saying show Trump violated Espionage Act? Or did they only read Smith's summation?
 
All we really know at this time is that trumpie is as corrupt as they come.
Hopefully for the Republican party we finally get out of this mess with a truthful and law abiding candidate.
 
Bishop that is what continues to baffle (and distress) me in this whole mess. Both parties have leading candidates with integrity issues beyond any question (hypocrisy and double standard a given) so why oh why does someone else not come forward as the overwhelming standard bearer? It’s all kinda telling on our current state of human affairs if you ask me. We, as a nation, are in serious doo doo.
 
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Bishop that is what continues to baffle (and distress) me in this whole mess. Both parties have leading candidates with integrity issues beyond any question (hypocrisy and double standard a given) so why oh why does someone else not come forward as the overwhelming standard bearer? It’s all kinda telling on our current state of human affairs if you ask me. We, as a nation, are in serious doo doo.
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Back when I was kid, the Republican party was where real conservative values had meaning and importance. Now unfortunately a tv show clown with a history of bankrupting every thing he touched, got too many folks fooled and they voted for him. The one huge regret I had with the new members that came into our party was that they were so uneducated and blind as to let him be this guy take over our party.
You could have placed a rock in the presidential chair and accomplish the same and way more good.
Does anyone really think he did anything with his own brain?
Heck no, thankfully he had some good folks make all his decisions and were smart enough to put all the dangerous buttons out of his reach.
Now the curtain has been finally been pulled back with this horde of highly sensitive and dangerous material found in his possession.
As a guy who has traveled to Russia several times in the past and has a brother-in-law who was a Royal Guard for Vladimir Putin. The stuff I heard over the years while he was in office were horrifying to hear of how they catered to him. Just really sad.
So every fiber of my being will be into getting the right conservative in that seat before we face a complete destruction of our party.
 
Funny, I knew to whom you were referring but astonished at how much, as I continued reading, it sounded as though maybe he’s talking about the current office holder, ha, we truly are in a sad state of affairs.
 
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