Should it be Tommy or Tammy?

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What the hell, how can a Dr. allow lesbian parents to give their child hormone blockers in the event an 11 year old later decides he wants to change his gender? Let nature take its course. Apparently, his transition began when he was 4...So their 11 year old boy wants to be a girl....i wonder if there are any sociological factors pushing him in this direction.......where the hell have we gone as a society...





A lesbian couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy who wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty -- so that he can have more time that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.

The couple’s supporters say the Hormone Blocking Therapy has only minor side effects and is appropriate for a child who is unsure of his gender. "This is definitely a changing landscape for transgender youth," said Joel Baum, director of education and training for Gender Spectrum, a California-based non-profit group. "This is about giving kids and their families the opportunity to make the right decision."




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I've friends with a transgender child and this is no easy matter to handle. I'm not outraged at the parents' action in this case. The stress on a transgender child too young to make a decision but faced with the onset of puberty in the unwanted sex is enormous just as it it on the parents.

I doubt the fact that that parents are lesbian is particularly relevant beyond the fact that they may be more sensitive to the torment of a young person who finds him/herself not fitting a traditional sexual/gender mode. I will assume that most people realize that homosexuals are not desirous of changing sex. Transgenderism is a different ball of wax altogether.

I hope this goes well for all involved. It's a nightmare scenario for all involved and I bet none of them are happy to be in it.
 
they should let the hormones kick in and the child may be fine. The parents started this when the child was 4. my cousin wanted to be a girl like his sister and would like to put on her clothes. it was a copycat deal. he grew out of it and is very much male and played football and college. my point is that lots of factors can affect a developing child and hormones shouldnt be restrained. let nature take its course.
 
Disgusting. That "couple" should be brought up on child abuse charges if they go through with these hormone blockers. Some may argue that the child has a legitimate psychological condition, but you can't ignore the fact that "he" is being brought up in an "alternative" lifestyle home.
 
It used to be easy to tell whether you were a boy or a girl. You went in the bathroom, pulled down your pants, and looked.

Not so anymore. Now that our society is instead starting to identify people based on subjective "gender identity" rather than the objective sex/anatomy, it's no surprise that we're starting to see stupid crap like this.
 
Roma, the problem here is we're not talking about a transgender. We're talking about a 4-year-old kid that says he wants to be a girl. He's four years old and someone thinks he has the mental capability to make a life decision?

This is the same kid that has probably also said he wants to be a dinosaur. Maybe we should look into some gene-splicing too? For that matter, if he says he wants to be a doctor, should we go ahead and chalk him up for med school now?

This is an issue of parents coaching their child into an identity crisis that he might never have otherwise. You talk about the nightmare of being in that state of confusion, so why now are parents actually trying to foment that confusion to a child that doesn't even know he's confused?
 
Yes, he's 11 now, but he was 4 (actually 3, got that wrong) when this started. But the point still stands at 11. And at 7, when he's "threatening"... I have no idea what that's about, but doesn't self-mutiliation (if this is true) point to some deeper psychological issues?

Regardless, denying the hormone blocker at that age is beyond irresponsible. You talk about this as being a "hellish" situtation, and if that's the case, why are they prolonging it by denying the kid a natural growth process that is very likely to fix the issue? All this does is put him on the path that it sounds as if both his parents want him to go. And yes, if they're already calling him Tammy, then they're definitely encouraging this.

Part of me thinks this is just another example of spoiling kids. They say they want something, we tell them no and they pitch a fit until we decide it must be what they should do. If his parents had simply said "you're a boy, and that means you can't be a girl", who's to say this wouldn't be a dead issue at this point? My guess is at least for now it would be - and if it's true that this is really who he is, then he can pursue it himself when he reaches an age where he's capable of making rational decisions.
 
We see this differently, Prodigal. I'm believing the kid is not being indulged in a whimsy and has a real problem that his parents are addressing as best they can.

If I saw the kid as being more the norm, as you seem to believe, I would agree with you. I do agree about kids making decisions for themselves, but, as I wrote, this decision is not waiting until the age of 18, it's here now.

I don't think the "nature taking its course" argument is always best. Aren't some kids with cancer included in life-prolonging decisions that may add time but cause agony? It seems appropriate in that case. It also seems appropriate in this case if the facts are as described.

My guess is that the parents are doing the best they can. I assume this about most parents until there is something to indicate otherwise. I hope it all works out for these parents and their child.
 
I see 4yr old kids being baptized all the time. Life decision being made by the parents, excuse me, straight parents.
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actually, most kids are baptized when they are only a few months old. i see kids that are baptized all the time whose parents dont go to church. its a tradition thing but i can see how you would be upset about it. the few drops of water on the forehead and luncheon that follows along with all the family and friends can be extremely traumatic for the child. while we are at it, we should probably cancel christmas too. presents, family and food can destroy a childs self confidence and sense of self worth.
 
I'd love to see some of the comments on here in the 50s and 60s during the civil rights movement. We'd get a cornucopia of "those people" remarks.

Delaying puberty isn't necessarily a bad thing. We don't know or understand the end results of it yet, so there's no "net gain" scenario to go off of. So is it something to fear? Maybe. But if this girl grows up and does great things, then I don't see the negative ramifications of it right now.

But we do know that she's not a boy in the identity sense. Will that change? My guess is no.
 
From a medical standpoint, I think it is malpractice. Are there any studies on the long-term safety of the product? If not, basically the patient is part of a clinical trial.
 
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