Shocked. BO not sending an Admin to Baroness rites

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I am not surprised BO is choosing to snub the UK by not sending anyone from his current Admin or even Congress to Baroness Thatcher's funeral
but the Britmedia sure see the snub and appear shocked and or angered.
Yes 2 former SOS are going but obviously in the world of diplomacy BO is making an statement and he does understand the message he is sending.

Why insult the UK? he could have sent Biden or even Michelle.

he put more effort into the US being represented at Chavez funeral.

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It is such an easy and small thing to do for what are still our closest ally. Why would BO do this when he could have as easily done the right thing, diplomatically
 
not an insult to GB but a willingness to forego hypocrisy by gushing over a person people like him abhor.

and the papers you cite are right wing rags; the sun runs nudes on an inside page every day to give you an idea of what a class paper it is
 
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sometimes being a leader of a country means you should put aside your personal opinions and do what is the right thing that represents well the counrty for which you are the leader.
there is something called protocol that existed long before BO and thankfully will exist after BO

Most of us might see the nuances of diplomacy as silly but neverless the nuances are there.
To not send a member of his Admin to the funeral of a long time close ally of ours is a snub.
it is perhaps a small thing . His actions are even smaller
 
the nudes are better looking than Krugman and I didn't say I never looked at them; in fact, they are the only reason I ever look at that bird cage lining of a paper; owned by Murdoch, of course.

Thatcher is not exactly getting a great sendoff in her homeland if you read the london papers, to say nothing of the Manchester Guardian. She is still immensely disliked in many parts of the nations.

She was largely a smoke and mirrors leader, like Obama and Clinton. England is still just as much a welfare state now as it was when she took over but now there are millions of deadbeat foreigners in the country thanks to her.
 
I don't think a lot of Brits would agree with your assessment.

Blair/Mandleson/Brown pretty much co-opted Tory/Thatcherite concepts in fashioning the New Labour platform. People like George Galloway and Ken Livingstone were much more mainstream in the early 80s. Government regulations was much more extensive, Companies were national assets, the sterling was weak and even devalued like some banana republic currency. People like to forget just how chaotic and dysfunctional the U.K. was under Harold Wilson and James Callaghan.

The Big Bang under Thatcher allowed the nation to build its globally leading financial centres. The return of business to the markets allowed firms like British Petroleum to rival Exxon in size and influence. These changes indeed introduced the downside of more liberal capitalist policies . . .more inequality, etc. but it also made the U.K. a highly competitive knowledge center globally.

The drama right now is how the Labour party under Ed Milliband is regressing towards pre-New Labour values, and Blair and others are crying foul over this.

Return to Old Labour

and Tony Blair's concern over the drift backwards.

Tony Blair on Ed Milliband
 
Official excuse is that with immigration and gun control on the agenda, BO can't spare Joltin' Joe or Michelle or Oprah or Tiger.

The reality is that Obama shows that he's a petty, partisan excuse for a politician, again. Great leaders put partisanship aside and do the right thing, especially for an ally like Great Britain.
 
You know while I was shaving I imagined the always indignant face and voice of Sean Hannity saying -- "He never even met Margaret Thatcher and his whole career he has done everything in his power to push and agenda she would find abhorrent -- and he has the nerve to waste millions of taxpayer dollars to attend her funeral. One more reason why he is the worst president ever ..."

When you put an angry Obama spin on everything Obama does then pretty soon the only folks paying much attention to you are the ones who like reinforcement for their own anti-Obama feelings. Margaret Thatcher's place in history is secure and it is beyond Obama's power to add or detract.
 
Crockett, the right thing to do was to send a current in office official representative. We did that for Chavez and I guarantee you that is more abhorrent to Sean Hannity than sending anyone to GB for Margaret Thatcher.
 
What is the precendent for the makeup of US delegations to the funerals of former leaders? Chavez was a head of state when he died, as opposed to Thatcher, who had been retired for decades.

I'm not saying this should matter, or even if it does -- I'm just curious what the precedent is.
 
OK, looks like most of the luminaries in the bs world are here, worked up into a frothy anger by the Karl Rove of the West Mal. The sane one (Crockett) is also here to provide grief counselling for any of the tea patriots if they're unable to realize reality. Yup I think we have a Quorum:

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Clean -- I take praise from anywhere I can get it. Since the death of my dear grandmother in 1997 -- praise has been lamentably lacking in my life.

Honestly, I think saying nice things about others gives you credibilty when you criticize. Every once in a while I point out good points and good qualities of posters with whom I typically disagree and after Rick Perry spoke at the First Baptist Church Dallas opening and said some things with which I agreed I even praised the governor I despise. My exact word: "Wow, Rick Perry is not a complete idiot."
 
Churchill's obstinate desire to preserve the empire led him to refuse to deal with Hitler and Hitler's ultimate defeat was in no small part due to Churchill. Mrs. Thatcher saved the Malvinas from the Argentine military dictators. Admirable, but not on the same scale.

When JOhn Majors dies, who will our then president send to represent us?
 
Yours or somebody else"s?
For the record, I would have been fine with Obama going or anybody else he wanted to go.

But Mrs. Thatcher's high esteem among American conservatives is not dogma among all of us.
 
I concur with Roger. People's opinion of Thatcher isn't really the point. She was a key prime minister of a our closest ally, and as such, the President should attend her funeral, as the UK's prime minister attended Reagan's funeral.

Having said that, I don't doubt for one second that if Obama did attend the funeral, he'd get ripped by people like Sean Hannity. However, idiot partisans are going to ***** no matter what he does. He should still do the right thing.
 
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