Seriously.....Kirilenko
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Am I crazy or did the score operater literally rob the Rockets?
With around 5 minutes left in the third Okur hit a long 2-pointer (announcers said it was a three) but his foot was across the line and I SAW the ref put up 2 fingers (instead of the three point sign)....The score gave them three and it has never changed nor has there been any comment about it (at least on TNT).
Please tell me someone else saw this live....Or someone please correct me so I don't have a heart attack from rage.
With around 5 minutes left in the third Okur hit a long 2-pointer (announcers said it was a three) but his foot was across the line and I SAW the ref put up 2 fingers (instead of the three point sign)....The score gave them three and it has never changed nor has there been any comment about it (at least on TNT).
Please tell me someone else saw this live....Or someone please correct me so I don't have a heart attack from rage.
The Greatest
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i've been watching the nba for a long time, i've seen tons of playoff games in salt lake city, and i know everyone thinks their team is getting screwed, but i have rarely seen ref favoritism rise to the level of this game. literally every jazz flop is rewarded (bobby jackson does it, nothing), every drive gets them to the line, every drive by the rocket ends in swallowed whistles (we led points in the paint 20 to 6 at the half and were losing free throws 14 to 3, amazing). the jazz can do anything and get a foul, the rockets can literally do nothing to stop it. the refs are just too incompetent and scared of the crowd. i mean, a guy got his teeth knocked out on our team and nothing was called.
FondrenRoad
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Yeah, I hate that guy. He goes down when the wind blows like an Italian soccer player. Of course, he is 6 ft 9, and only weighs about 110, so maybe he truly is getting knocked down that much.
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HuskerNKingwood
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HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOW SWEET IT IS!
That is all.
Now let's tie this series Saturday.
That is all.
Now let's tie this series Saturday.
forshizzzle
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I can't believe how little attention was given to tha Okur "three". I said the same thing, that it looked like his toes were on the line. But nothing. No replay. No mention.
It's all BS. The refs were hilariously bad, to the point where you stopped taking any of it seriously, like bad WWF wrestling.
Then again, I guess you can really show your appreciation for karma when you consider the absolute assault that Landry experienced on that shot to the face (with no call) and then to come back and make the game saving block.
It's all BS. The refs were hilariously bad, to the point where you stopped taking any of it seriously, like bad WWF wrestling.
Then again, I guess you can really show your appreciation for karma when you consider the absolute assault that Landry experienced on that shot to the face (with no call) and then to come back and make the game saving block.
First let me say that I really believe the Rockets still have a realistic chance to win this series. You heard it here first. Now having said that let me describe how I saw the final 30 seconds of the game tonight.
Mehmet Okur hits a 3 making the score 92-91 Rockets with about 30 seconds left. After the timeout McGrady receives the in bounds pass 90 feet from the rim. Rocket fans are on the edge of their seats knowing that their primetime player has to make something happen here to put the game out of reach, or at least make it a 3 point game.
Mcgrady walks the ball up the court. The Rockets run a series of screens before Scola comes to the top of the key setting a screen for McGrady, who has the ball. McGrady rubs off the screen to his right dribbling a few steps inside of the 3pt arc on the right wing. He rises up, high, for the shot. Seemingly 10 feet off the ground. The crowd hushes in anticipation. The ball is in the air after McGrady's feathery release. What's going to happen? You could cut the tension in the air with a knife. The ball floats towards the goal for what seems like an eternity. As the ball nears the goal the crowd gasps, and puts their hands up over their ears as the ball ricochets off the left backboard touching not even an electron of the rim.
In fact, Energy Solutions arena technicians rise up to their feet quickly, expecting to hurry onto the court and fix the backckboard due to the stone McGrady smashed it with. All I know is that I just about fell out of my seat rolling over laughing at that hardass brick McGrady threw at the left backboard. Did the backboard do something to McGrady while I was away, why does McGrady hate the backboard so. OH MY GOD!!! Even the most ardent Rocket fans on here had to burst out laughing at McGrady's woeful attempt to exhibit his crunch time ability. Pure left board, nothing but left backboard WTF??????
Sorry didn't catch the remaining few seconds of the game. My stomach was still hurting.
Mehmet Okur hits a 3 making the score 92-91 Rockets with about 30 seconds left. After the timeout McGrady receives the in bounds pass 90 feet from the rim. Rocket fans are on the edge of their seats knowing that their primetime player has to make something happen here to put the game out of reach, or at least make it a 3 point game.
Mcgrady walks the ball up the court. The Rockets run a series of screens before Scola comes to the top of the key setting a screen for McGrady, who has the ball. McGrady rubs off the screen to his right dribbling a few steps inside of the 3pt arc on the right wing. He rises up, high, for the shot. Seemingly 10 feet off the ground. The crowd hushes in anticipation. The ball is in the air after McGrady's feathery release. What's going to happen? You could cut the tension in the air with a knife. The ball floats towards the goal for what seems like an eternity. As the ball nears the goal the crowd gasps, and puts their hands up over their ears as the ball ricochets off the left backboard touching not even an electron of the rim.
In fact, Energy Solutions arena technicians rise up to their feet quickly, expecting to hurry onto the court and fix the backckboard due to the stone McGrady smashed it with. All I know is that I just about fell out of my seat rolling over laughing at that hardass brick McGrady threw at the left backboard. Did the backboard do something to McGrady while I was away, why does McGrady hate the backboard so. OH MY GOD!!! Even the most ardent Rocket fans on here had to burst out laughing at McGrady's woeful attempt to exhibit his crunch time ability. Pure left board, nothing but left backboard WTF??????
Sorry didn't catch the remaining few seconds of the game. My stomach was still hurting.
mcgrady also almost shot an airball on one his "crunch" late game free throws. I wasn't feeling too good then..
I hate the jazz, hate them; I seriously think I would run down john stockton in my car if I saw him on the street. maybe not, but I'd seriously think about it. you think home cooking at utah is bad now, you should have seen how it was in the late 80's/early 90's w/ him and malone.
I hate the jazz, hate them; I seriously think I would run down john stockton in my car if I saw him on the street. maybe not, but I'd seriously think about it. you think home cooking at utah is bad now, you should have seen how it was in the late 80's/early 90's w/ him and malone.
Statalyzer
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ColtMcApplewhite
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The Greatest
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that's why i said "rarely," because it seems hard to imagine anything will ever top kings/lakers game 6. and the fairly even 4th in this game helped take my anger down a notch. now it's not even up there with lakers/wolves game 3.
as far as kings/lakers game 6, i'm not even sure pollard's foul out foul (about the 3rd phantom call on him in the game) was the worst. i think the worst was webber posting up horry with about 6 minutes to go with the kings up 2 or 4. webber on the left block, turns toward the free throw line to put up a hook. horry lunges into webber, committing an obvious blocking foul, as he makes the hook and webber is whistled for an offensive foul, his 5th foul of the game. this is the playoffs, with 6 minutes to go in the 4th, where whistles are usually swallowed, it's a star, a guy who finished 2nd in the mvp voting, against a role player (even if it was a rockets hero), and the role player committing an obvious foul. not only is it not called on the role player, not only is it not a non-call, it's a freakin' offensive foul!
that could have stemmed some lakers momentum and either put the kings up 4 or 6 and made it much easier to win, instead a few minutes later webber commits a real foul and the officials, now not wanting to foul out webber for some reason, have to give the foul to vlade, which is now his 6th. with pollard already ridiculously fouled out, the kings are left with either webber with 5 fouls or lawrence funderburke to guard shaq the rest of the game. man that was a crooked game. they basically stole a title from adelman and webber that day.
granted, if the kings don't shoot 2-20 from 3 and 15-30 from the line in game 7 (how did those shooters shoot so badly?) they could've won the series (it's amazing that game went to OT given the above stats, that's how much the better team the kings were), but they never should have had to win game 7 b/c they deserved game 6.
and now back to your regularly scheduled utah complaining.
as far as kings/lakers game 6, i'm not even sure pollard's foul out foul (about the 3rd phantom call on him in the game) was the worst. i think the worst was webber posting up horry with about 6 minutes to go with the kings up 2 or 4. webber on the left block, turns toward the free throw line to put up a hook. horry lunges into webber, committing an obvious blocking foul, as he makes the hook and webber is whistled for an offensive foul, his 5th foul of the game. this is the playoffs, with 6 minutes to go in the 4th, where whistles are usually swallowed, it's a star, a guy who finished 2nd in the mvp voting, against a role player (even if it was a rockets hero), and the role player committing an obvious foul. not only is it not called on the role player, not only is it not a non-call, it's a freakin' offensive foul!
that could have stemmed some lakers momentum and either put the kings up 4 or 6 and made it much easier to win, instead a few minutes later webber commits a real foul and the officials, now not wanting to foul out webber for some reason, have to give the foul to vlade, which is now his 6th. with pollard already ridiculously fouled out, the kings are left with either webber with 5 fouls or lawrence funderburke to guard shaq the rest of the game. man that was a crooked game. they basically stole a title from adelman and webber that day.
granted, if the kings don't shoot 2-20 from 3 and 15-30 from the line in game 7 (how did those shooters shoot so badly?) they could've won the series (it's amazing that game went to OT given the above stats, that's how much the better team the kings were), but they never should have had to win game 7 b/c they deserved game 6.
and now back to your regularly scheduled utah complaining.
ColtMcApplewhite
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re: DJDJAJGJ
#2 More of a theme really--the blatant maltreatment of USMNT in the last two World Cups, at least in the last one.
Maybe the refs really didn't see the handball against Germany in 2002, as the goalkeeper's angle to the ball did obscure the defender from view somewhat on the left side of the pitch, but it should have been easy to see from the right side, and the refs should be specifically looking for a possible handball when a defender is hugging a post.
But USA vs. Italy in 2006 was utter BS! The Uruguayan referee with the history of cheating in the previous World Cup
added a new definition to the phrase "red handed". Mastroeni should have never been sent off. First off, how late can the tackle really be if you touch the ball first before contact with the opposition? Regardless, in all of the soccer I've watched, ball contact first, coming in from the side, and one-footed contact at the ankles is not getting a straight red. Yellow would have been fine, or at least understandable. That was a make-up call. The second yellow on Pope could have gone either way and the disallowed Beasley goal as well, but, after the ridiculous first red against the US, I don't feel there was any judgement considered in those judgement calls.
Honorable mention goes to the what would have been the winning goal of which we were robbed a few months ago against Mexico at Reliant along with coming as close as I ever likely will to being shot unless I actually am shot as we were leaving the stadium and going to the parking lot. Soccer is very love/hate for me at the moment.
(As an aside, can anyone think of a time where horrendous officiating benefited the USA in an international sporting event? I'm not saying it hasn't, and maybe I am biased, but, I cannot recall one.)
#1 Astros vs. Mets 1986, game 6, ninth inning, Lanier--
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't want to talk about it.
#2 More of a theme really--the blatant maltreatment of USMNT in the last two World Cups, at least in the last one.
Maybe the refs really didn't see the handball against Germany in 2002, as the goalkeeper's angle to the ball did obscure the defender from view somewhat on the left side of the pitch, but it should have been easy to see from the right side, and the refs should be specifically looking for a possible handball when a defender is hugging a post.
But USA vs. Italy in 2006 was utter BS! The Uruguayan referee with the history of cheating in the previous World Cup
added a new definition to the phrase "red handed". Mastroeni should have never been sent off. First off, how late can the tackle really be if you touch the ball first before contact with the opposition? Regardless, in all of the soccer I've watched, ball contact first, coming in from the side, and one-footed contact at the ankles is not getting a straight red. Yellow would have been fine, or at least understandable. That was a make-up call. The second yellow on Pope could have gone either way and the disallowed Beasley goal as well, but, after the ridiculous first red against the US, I don't feel there was any judgement considered in those judgement calls.
Honorable mention goes to the what would have been the winning goal of which we were robbed a few months ago against Mexico at Reliant along with coming as close as I ever likely will to being shot unless I actually am shot as we were leaving the stadium and going to the parking lot. Soccer is very love/hate for me at the moment.
(As an aside, can anyone think of a time where horrendous officiating benefited the USA in an international sporting event? I'm not saying it hasn't, and maybe I am biased, but, I cannot recall one.)
#1 Astros vs. Mets 1986, game 6, ninth inning, Lanier--
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't want to talk about it.
Statalyzer
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Actually, anyone who would put Ginobili at the top of a current NBA floppers list hasn't been paying attention.
I've watched almost every game this season, and I can say with confidence that he doesn't flop near as bad as he used to. If you want to make some "greatest floppers of all-time" list, fine. But right now, he's not even the No. 1 flopper on his own team.
I can't even remember the last egregious one he committed.
I've watched almost every game this season, and I can say with confidence that he doesn't flop near as bad as he used to. If you want to make some "greatest floppers of all-time" list, fine. But right now, he's not even the No. 1 flopper on his own team.
I can't even remember the last egregious one he committed.
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