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Son of a Son

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Bases loaded, 1 out. Hitter pops the ball up just behind short, and just out of the infield (no IFF rulein effect). SS misses the catch but is able to tage the runner going from second to third who was hung up on the fly ball. Run from 3rd scores, no other outs recorded.

My guess? FC and an RBI for the hitter.
 
I'm no expert, but I think you can give an error - fielder missed pop-up that he should have caught; nevermind that he got an out on further developments - JMHO.

thus, it would be E-6, no RBI.

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I think the batter is safe on a fielder's choice but the run from third scores on the E-6. No RBI because the run wouldn't have scored but for the error.

Sounds like it should have been ruled infield fly, if the pop was short enough for the runner to be tagged.
 
As I understand, there can be no error if the ball is totally missed. It's like a pop up that drops between two fielders.

For the record, this is my daughter's league and she was the hitter. I've been teaching her how to keep a score book, after the play, she asked me how we'd score that, lol. In her league, there is no IFF Rule.
 
FC all the way. The reason why the league has no IFF rule is because you can't assume the catch (I coach 10U girls). If you can't assume the catch, then you can't grant an error.
 
You can call it an error if it falls without being touched, by "assuming the catch." However, this is usually not done, it is usually called a base hit-and in an under 10 league, I'm sure this would be the case.
Why wouldn't it be a base hit in that case, with an RBI and the one out made by 6 unassisted (6U). They are going to be pretty liberal with awarding base hits at that age.
 
You need to clarify the details. They are too open to interpretation to give an accurate answer, as we are all providing correct calls to a variety to different scenarios.If I was forced to make a determination from only the information given, you state the "Hitter pops the ball up just behind short" and "SS misses the catch", and you imply he was physically close enough to the baserunner advancing to 3B to tag him. Clearly, this ball could have been fielded by the SS "with ordinary effort." The infield fly rules applies to situations where a fly ball can be fielded "with ordinary effort." Whether the SS is standing on grass or dirt is arbitrary. It sounds like the infield fly rule actually would be in effect in that situation, as you present it as though the SS just takes a couple of steps backward into the grass, camps underneath it, and just drops it. I have a hard time believing a single Little League umpire, much less 4 Major League umpires collectively, would miss the call. But if they did, since the IF rule cannot be appealed, I suppose the ultimate end result of the play would be FC, RBI, and the umpiring crew would be relieved of duty after the game, if a mutiny in the stadium didn't occur first.
 
It's not a matter of missing a call. The league doesn't have an infield fly rule. That's what he seems to be saying.

However, based on the description, I would have scored it E6, 6 unassisted on the out, runner scores on the error.
 
Yeah, did the SS attempt to catch the ball ->with ordinary effort<- and miss or drop it? Error. No RBI.

Or just not get to it? No error IMO. RBI and FC as somone else said.
 
I guess it is a fielder's choice instead of a base hit because one of the runners who were forced to run was put out on the play-otherwise, it would have been ruled a base hit.
 
Assuming the IFF rule is applicable, the umpire could have called "Infield Fly" regardless of where on the field the shortstop made the attempt at a catch. In fact, an umpire can even call "Infield Fly" when an outfielder makes an attempt on a ball.

Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball
could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder—not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or
the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if,
in the umpire’s judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in
no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire’s judgment must govern, and the decision should
be made immediately.

MLB Rules
 
Again, you guys are all wrong. These are little kids playing baseball: terms such as "infield fly rule" and "error" have no meaning. Every time a batter hits the ball and touches the 1B bag, even when the ball is caught, even when the ball is batted foul but the player runs to 1B anyway; even when the bat does not actually make contact with the ball but the batter thinks it did and runs to 1B, it is a base hit. I know this because I have been to games and conducted countless post-game interviews with the players. Trust me, the player's mother who is keeping the book will score it hit and RBI every time.
 
AstroVol, of course you are correct, BUT, Son of a Son is trying to teach his daughter the correct way to do things...she will be be able to use this knowledge to her advantage at some point in her life...and as I'm writing this I had this thought...when my youngest daughter was being interviewed for DF Diamonds they actually asked her how to score a play...naturally she knew the answer and was SO in as a Dimaond.
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