Say NO to the PAC

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Lone_Star

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Pros: cool places to visit

Cons: PAC owns all media rights, LHN is no more, non-caring population in regards to game attendance with half-empty stadiums abound throughout, time differences (7PM starts there are 9PM starts here), losing 2 hours when coming from the west coast, travel distances

Pushes: hot women (they can be found almost anywhere), academics (other than the SEC, this is a non-issue when compared to the B1G or the ACC)

What are your pros and cons for the PAC? There is only one pro for me, but that's not enough to get me to fall in the line of wanting the PAC.
 
^Have you ever been in Indiana or Ohio in the winter? If not, you do not understand the definition of "cold!"

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This is what I'd like to see:

1. Save the Big XII, fire Beebe, and be proactive instead of reactive in the future
2. Indy in football, and parking other sports in ACC
3. B1G (there is a reason why southern sports are doing much better, and we don't want to migrate our sports to the north)
4. PAC
 
SEC would be the best option..location, weather, all sports benefit (men/women), decent academics (better than Big 12), will work with LHN, piss off aggy
 
College football isn't played in the winter. Fall weather in the Midwestern US is spectacular. Playing in sold out stadiums in crisp autumn weather beats the **** out of playing in front of lackluster, half empty stadiums on the West Coast.
 
Would like to agree with Lone Star, re: save the Big 12, then Indy/ACC; however, could either of those prove stable homes?
 
I don't want Pac-12 either. Nor do I want the Big 10. I really don't want to be an Independent. By default, I'd prefer SEC then ACC. Just my opinion that's based on my current location (Knoxville) AND, more importantly, football culture.

I mean, I love football as much as the next Southerner; however, I generally have no idea what has happened on the West Coast until the next morning. If Oregon is playing USC, I might try to stay awake. Otherwise, I don't really care.
 
Syracuse, kids from Texas don't want to go that far north to play in bitter cold climates. That's why I say there is a reason that the football programs in the southern areas are doing much better than those in the north. That type of football isn't even exciting to me. I'm sorry, but the B1G is next to last on my list of desires, with the PAC being last. The ONLY reason that it's not last for me is because of the fact that most of the schools are in the central time zone. If not, they're in the eastern time zone, just one hour ahead of us.
 
Knoxville, the $EC isn't even on the list for me. Is there not any school in the $EC that isn't under investigation, probation, or suspicion? Well, I'll give you Vandy. The Aggies don't know what they're getting themselves into, but hey, they get to forge their own road.
 
I think the main reason Texas moves is to retain some Rivalry. Other than that... the Big12 could survive with the absorption of what is left of the Big East. How important is Rivalry? That and Stability is what seems to be the major factors.
 
I don't think its all that cold in October/November up there. Its not like we're going to be playing games in January. One the coldest games I've been to was the Chris Simms to Roy Williams show at Nebraska, where I think it was around 30 degrees that night. Even the locals were saying that was much colder than normal for that time of year. So it could happen, but doubtful many games would be super cold.
 
Football games are played in the fall, not in the bitter cold. Fall weather in Michigan or Illinois isn't much different from fall weather in Nebraska or Kansas. I have a hard time believing that kids suffering through 100+ temps for 80 days would be afraid of a little cool weather in November.
 
If you've ever played football and you're used to playing in temps in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and maybe even the 100s; it's a heck of a difference to be hitting or to be getting hit in temps in the 40s, 30s, 20s, and below. Most Texas kids don't want to do that if they have a more reasonable choice.
 
Your opinion is your opinion, but if Texas were in the B1G, at least half of their games would be in the northern half of the US. It makes no sense from a Texas standpoint.
 
Ok.

About those temps: Out of like 94 games last year, only 6 were played in temps under 40 degrees. The cold for football is really, really overrated.
 
YES to the Pac-12. All around benefits not just for football but for all sports. Our academics is on par with the other AAU's in the conference. and preserving OU is huge and the pods keep travel to a minimum.

It will be nice to finally see the Horns in the PNW should this new super conference be a reality.

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things that matter to me as a fan: playing good teams, playing road games in cool cities with cool campuses, wathcing my team on tv, good bowl game locations

things that do not matter to me as a fan: attendance at other teams' games, media rights if all of my team's games are on tv, LHN if I can't watch it at my house, tv payout to my school if it doesn't make my tickets/donation cheaper
 
Yes to the Pac 16: TV sets in Cal, Texas and dominating basically everywhere west of the Mississippi.

Keeping OU, Tech and OSU as traditional rivals beats forging new rivalries with people 1,000 miles away.

Cool roadies as well.

No to the dying Rust Belt and cold weather football.
 
What's to worry about? Our Longhorn Network will solve our travel, winter, time zone, Olympic sports concerns. If we are adamant in our desire to keep the Longhorn Network as is, that point alone is enough to keep us out of the PAC-12 and Big Ten. If we have to bring our little brother (Tech), that will guarantee we won't get a Big Ten invitation.
 
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