Saw 'True Grit'......

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......from the Coen Brothers starring Jeff Bridges, newcomer Hailee Steinfeld, Matt Damon and Josh Brolin and thought it was really good.

I believe most viewers will find a lot to enjoy.

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Remembering well the original version starring John Wayne, Glen Campbell and Kim Darby, directed by Henry Hathaway, I enjoyed it back then and, in part several times, more recently on TV.

I've read that the Coen Brothers have made it clear they don't consider their new flick a remake of the 1969 movie for which John Wayne won his Best Actor Academy Award.

I won't question them making that distinction, but both movies are from the Charles Portis novel of the same title and have the same story, the same setting, the same characters, the same scenes with the same plot twists and lots and lots of the same dialog.

So, if you think you've watched most of this before you're absolutely correct.

Only, it was The Duke the first time around and now it's The Dude.

And the Coens are in charge.

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However, don't worry moviegoers, whatever you think you're thinking about thinking what I'm thinking.

Because, I'll assert that, for me, each film stands up quite well, whether considered together and/or separately.

I think the most noticeable difference is that in The Duke's earlier film, John Wayne playing "Rooster" is always clearly identifiable as the larger than life movie icon: John Wayne, whilst in The Dude's current flick, the actor Jeff Bridges almost completely disappears into his portrayal of the drunken, slothful, reprobate U. S. Marshal Reuben J. Cogburn, who is faulted, one-eyed, fat and foul, but finally faithful and forever fearless.

IMO, everybody in both flicks showed plenty of true grit.

I appreciated and like both movies.

John Wayne was a movie star, who certainly acted well enough.

And Jeff Bridges is one of our best actors, whose star burns brightly.

Look for the little pieces of business he does with his body, hands or face when he's delivering a line or even saying nothing at all.

And appreciate one bit when he dismounts and takes a full minute stumbling, steadying and orienting himself after he reaches the ground.

I'll bet the Coens get Academy Award nominated as directors and "readapted screenplayers," along with Bridges (who won his Best Actor Oscar just last year playing a more modern misfit cowboy) and also 14 year old newcomer Steinfeld for their acting performances and the cinematographer, Roger Deakins, for his photography.

And Matt Damon's measured performance might get a nod too.

James Brolin and Barry Pepper were good as well.

I thought Wayne, Campbell, Darby and Robert Duvall were well cast and did well in the first, less dark, 1969 film.

Hey, it's theme song, sung by Glen, won an Oscar.

I believe, Kim Darby received somewhat less screen time for her portrayal of Mattie Ross and she played the role (and was) older.

But it was a pretty good semi-old oater, just a little different in emphasis, tone and temper.

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Go see the current movie, "True Grit," for studied realism about the period and place, its fine acting, intelligent dialog and a worthwhile new look at an excellent Western storyline.



Your thoughts?
 
Thanks for the review. My wife and I are looking to check this out sometime next week and I'm pretty excited for it.
 
Does Col. Stonehill tell Maddie he'd heard 'that someone had fallen in a well, I thought perhaps it was you" in the remake?
 
Thanks, FF. Haven't seen it yet, but will soon. I always appreciate and respect your movie reviews / comments.
 
Plan to see it soon. It does seem a strange choice for the Coen brothers, or for anyone to try to do a remake of.
But the Dude abides, and so does the Duke, and so do the Coen brothers, therefore, I'll go see it.
 
I can't remember the last time I went to the Movies and felt like it was so worth the time and money. This was gritty, intelligent and entertaining. My wife, my 12-year-old son and I all enjoyed the movie and my boy wasn't expecting to like it much.
I saw the origninal when I was his age and couldn't remember all the plot twists. But at least three of the best lines from the first were delivered even better in the second. I couldn't imagine Rooster Cogburn played better done by John Wayne, but after watching Jeff Bridges I feel the same way about him. Hailee Steinfeld and Matt Damon were awesome.
 
I saw it on Wed. and was very impressed. I admit, I was a little wary about a remake of this movie, but it was well done.

You need to see this - I liked it a lot and I'm not usually big on westerns.
 
I understand that the Coen brothers used the same novel, but not the same screenplay. i guess I should read the book.
 
Hadn't seen the original nor read the book, so this was all new to me. Really liked it a lot. Wasn't expecting so much comedy. Damon, Bridges, the girl, Pepper, Brolin - all great. My wife really liked it as well - and I only got her there because RT had it at 97% while some romantic comedy was below 20%.... Her only complaint was that she had a hard time understanding Bridges sometimes.
 
I saw it and also liked it. However i disagree about Damon, I thought his part was a bit off and seemed cartoonish. I also wish they would have given Brolins character more time, he barely had any lines and deserved a little more development.

Bridges and Steinfeld were great.

I have never seen the original so maybe thats the way it was.
 
I thought Jeff Bridges did an admirable job playing Rooster Cogburn. There is a scene where he is stumbling drunk that is laugh-out-loud funny!

Matt Damon did a decent job but his character is absentee in parts of the story.

Josh Brolin was good as Tom Chaney.

Barry Pepper was great as Lucky Ned Pepper; almost creepy at times.

Hailee Steinfeld was really good as Matt Ross.

My problem with this movie more than anything else is that the editing was disjointed. There were unnecessary pauses in dialogue that were not so much due to the actors delivery as they were to the way the movie was edited. There were little things that were just a little off.

It's a good movie and if you haven't seen the original movie I think you will like it. For me, it comes up wanting versus the earlier version.
 
The flick was obviously filmed in Texas and/or NM. Are there any parts of Arkansas (where the story was set) that look like the arid parts of TX or NM? That was the only thing...and granted, it's a minor gripe...that bugged me: had a hard time believing they were in the piggy state.

I did not stick around for the credits and so did not realize until reading this thread that Ned was played by Barry Pepper...damn, good make-up.

Definite two thumbs up!
 
I liked the movie and recommend it. However I agree with others about Damon. Maybe its that he is supposed to be a tough Texas ranger but seemed like a small town cop from somewhere in the Midwest. He just seemed oddly out of place.
 
Pepper was my favorite SPR character. Also, he was born to play Roger Maris in 61*. Cannot imagine any other actor in that role.
 
Awesome movie....very well done. Agree Damon was little out of place but it didn't hurt the film IMO. I thought the scene with Cogburn trying to shoot the corn dodgers was hilarious.
 
I thought it was great. I thought Damon was just fine. Very enjoyable movie.
 
Read the book. This version was the way it should have been shot to begin with. Whether it was Wayne's ego, or the studio's unwillingness to have Wayne play a part that was outside the lines of his typical roles, this was just a better flick.

I wish Wayne had played Rooster straight up. Sort of a nastier, meaner version of Ethan Edwards.

Honestly, I don't think there is one character that didn't exceed the performance in the same role in the prior attempt.
 
We saw it Tuesday night at the Alamo, pretty well done. The acting is excellent, and the scenery and costuming make it a believable western, unusual these days.
But I kept thinking I had seen all the scenes and the dialog in the first movie. I admit it has been a long time since I saw the John Wayne version, but how different was this True Grit?
I recalled some scenes I liked better in the first movie, like Mattie negotiating over the ponies with the merchant. A couple of scenes did seem to have noticeable flaws, but what the heck, it was good overall, especially the acting-Pepper as Ned Pepper, the girl as Mattie, Bridges, several other character actors, all impressed.
The acting is the strength, IMO. Worth viewing, but doesn't make the top ten western list.
 
accurate, since you lived during the time period that True Grit is set in I defer to your takes on it. I enjoyed the film quite a bit today. For being the first film the girl was in she flat out demolished the role. ****, even if she had done several she hit a home run.
 
So no one else had any problems with the dialog? Is it a fact that contractions' were not uttered until the 20th century? I simply felt that the conversation style was way too stilted, especially so between the outlaws and with Ranger Rick - Matt Damon.
But I did like movie, heck I always like westerns.
 
nash - I read your comment about the dialogue before I saw the movie and was on the lookout for it. I must not understand your concern because I just didn't see it.

And another scene that made me laugh.......after Mattie buys her horse she says, "I'll name him Little Blackie"" and the black stable boy (not racist he was about 10 yrs old) says, "that's a good name".

Yeah....I laughed.
 
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Nks for the background info Gio Jo. Makes sense as that is about how I saw it. Not sure I agree that as illiterates Kings James would be appropriate default but appreciate the explanation. Distancing Mattie's vocabulary and language skills would have made more sense. Anyway enjoyed the movie but had some disconnect with the dialog.

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I though the dialogue was great for several reasons. For one thing, it did sound less modern than most Westerns, even the ones that try to not sound modern. It was believable as being more old-fashioned, even though I don't know what historically accurate 1880s speech would really sound like.

For another thing, it just sounded more realistic in that, yes it was somewhat oddly formal and poetic, but almost all movies have this problem, they just all have the problem in such a similar way to every other movie and we're so used to it we usually don't notice how few people in real life are as spontaneously eloquent as every single movie character ever, except the ones who are specifically designed to be awkward, or stammering fools. So, in lot of ways it was more realistic because even though it was formal, it wasn't always eloquent. It was sometimes stilted or cheesy in the way that real life speech is, rather than the way movies are. Compare Maddie's "WOW! Some bully shot!" to Anakin's "Intense! Now this is podracing!" - one of them actually sounds like what a spontaneous exclamation of amazement would sound like.

And finally, Jeff Bridges did an amazing job on his deadpan lines. He wasn't a deadpan snarker or sarcastic, he was just matter-of-fact like you would expect of a guy who is so used to this stuff that it doesn't really give him emotional highs and lows much, it's all flat to him. And doing that without making the character himself flat is difficult, but he pulled it off perfectly IMO.

My early frontrunner for movie of the year.

I did find it odd that Maddie is arguably the main character, or at least co-lead with Cogburn, but a lot of the posters and advertising mentioned the top 3-4 male stars while ommitting Hailee Steinfield entirely, and in the end credits she was listed 6th.

I also couldn't believe LaBoef was Matt Damon. When that character was first introduced my thought was "I thought I'd heard this was Matt Damon's character. Guess I misheard." And the whole rest of the movie I was trying to figure out which guy was Damon. Even after seeing it in the credits, I still can't make it work in my mind. I wonder if he really grew out a mustache and waxed and curled it, or if the thing was fake?
 

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