Saw 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo',,,,,

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....and was very disappointed when I couldn't hear a large portion of the dialog well enough to understand what was being said.

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I'm 69 and my hearing may be less acute than yours, but I don't usually have auditory difficulty at the movies.

I'd already enjoyed the earlier, original Swedish-made version at home using the English subtitles and, of course, I got all the words easily that way.

The current David Fincher flick seemed much more voyeuristic and much less interesting to me than the original movie.

That's because not knowing what was being said greatly diminished this film's impact for me.

Duh.

And I'll blame Fincher's direction for that, because he's ultimately the head dude in charge.

I specifically gave him the credit he deserved for making "The Social Network" very interesting and easily understandable for a older citizen like me, who's never used or even seen Facebook and has only the most basic computer social networking skills.

I thought "The Social Network" was an excellent movie, but I just couldn't get into this his latest offering, even though the casting, cinematography and action were all fine.

Hey, although I already knew the story including what was going to happen next, I kept wondering what the actors had just said.

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So, I'd advise many movie viewers, who also want to be dialog listeners, to wait for the DVD, unless your hearing is a lot sharper than mine.

Perhaps it is.

Good luck and let me know.

I'll say that louder, GOOD LUCK AND LET ME KNOW.

Hope that helps.

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I saw it today and only had difficulty hearing dialog in the first scene, prior to the opening credits. I did think they audio was low in general though, but I feel like that might have been the theater. Did you see this at the Cinemark in Cedar Park by chance?
 
I saw it at our multiplex in Marble Falls.

There were only about 10 other people at our 4:00 PM showing..

It was in one of the larger auditoriums where they generally show the latest movie they have.

I usually can hear fine in that theater, even when there's a full house.

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The original was so good I don't understand why they remade it.
I guess there are lots of people who hate subtitles. And poor distribution to Podunk, USA.

I always enjoy a good departure from the usual Hollywood approach.
The only exception I recall being Like Water for Chocolate. The only thing worse than a boring chick flick is a boring chick flick with subtitles.
 
I read slowly and because of that I don't like subtitles generally. I liked the books so I rented the films and used the pause button liberally to read the dialogue and then go back to the action. I enjoyed the books and the original films. I'll wait to see how people like the English versions before I decide if I want to see them. Thanks for the reviews.
 
I didn't read the book- nor have I seen the Swedish version, yet, but I give the English version 5 stars- I liked this movie a lot. There were no audio problems- however on occasion both my wife and I didn't understand a word or two said by the actors. Either it was an attempt to use an English word with a Swedish accent- or just an audio mishap.

Anyways- the plot, especially for a first time viewer, was very engaging. It did however leave me with many unanswered questions I had to resolve online when I got home later.


SPOILER ALERT- I was not given a clear impression in the movie how Lisabeth is able to hack into his accounts at the end, get his money, and expose him- and I assume she kept $50k for herself to pay back her loan. Then- we're led to believe she never liked him more than a friend/lover until the end. So, she sees him with his old lover and just moves on?

And when Harriet reunites with her uncle- does she do so covertly or was it a general reunion with her family after 3 decades??

I guess they wanted to keep the movie brief and have us ask questions- and yeah I know I sometimes ask a lot of questions. I plan on getting the Swedish version now just to see the original as intended.
 
McBrett, while I am not against watching the Swedish movie, I suggest you read the book.

Spoilers: The book makes clear some things that the movie glosses over, especially that Lisbeth is an accomplished hacker and has a network of allies that help her. Also, Lisbeth keeps all but the 50,000 kronor. Finally, Bloomqvist is not a "one woman man", but is a good friend of Lisbeth, and this causes confusion and hurt for Lisbeth. And this will be a big part of the next two books. Also, Harriets role will become clear in the 2nd and 3rd books. (#2 and #3 are superior to the first IMO)
 
Saw TGWTDT yesterday afternoon. I'd been warned that it was as explicit as an "R" rating allowed and it was.

I'd never read the books or seen the first set of movies. I was able to follow the story's twists and turns for the most part and enjoyed it.

Rooney Mara stole the show. Daniel Craig played it pretty close to the vest.

What was the gift that Lisbeth had bought Mikael but threw in the trash when she saw him with the old girlfriend? The guy she got it from said something like "you must like this person alot".
 
Saw the Fincher version and was non-plussed. Seemed forced and bloated. I was irritated by numerous things that most would likely consider immaterial.

Thought the Reznor score was intrusive, whereas, in the Social Network it was definitive. Downhill from there.

Saw the Swedish version a few days later and was struck by the similarities, even the score (Let the Right One In was very different in tone and content, as a contrast). The differences made the Fincher piece seem less in tune with feminist sensibilities. Odd.

I thought the end was overdone in both, excessive and cliched, though the Swedish version could be excused to some degree given the better execution of misdirection and the more forceful feminist pursuit of the 'girl' character.

I thought Mara did well, ribs, smooth mound, and all. Craig is James Bond and was miscast.

My parents both enjoyed the Swedish version.

What was white and plasticky in Stockholm was gold and boutique-milled in Hollywood. Typical.

Meh.

As an aside, I watched the Criterion Blue Ray of Kes recently -- fantastic.
 
Question about the final scene: anybody ever tried to ride a motorcycle on a wet cobblestone street? It is not like riding in gravel. I don't think it can be done at all.

The scenes where she is flying around the countryside on slick roads with snow on the side of the road also struck me as presposterous. Visually very nice, but disconcertingly unrealistic.

Anybody got any experience riding a cycle on wet cobblestone?
 
The actor who plays the hacker is getting a lot of good press and I am wondering why. I watched the film and kept thinking it was a shame Amy Whinehouse was dead because she could have nailed the roll. This woman, it seemed to me, was like a rich kid trying to do an imitation of a really hard bitten anger driven badly abused woman by grimacing a lot in a pretty unrealistic fashion.

Having spent some time around some insane vicious women, I did not find the impersonation very convincing. Sort of like watching Bobcat Goldthwait trying to do Rhett Butler, maybe.

Anyway, I read yesterday that the actor is a very rich young woman from New York and that made sense. Bare your fangs and act lower class, rich girl!!!!

Cinemaphotography was great and Robin Wright and Joely Richardson very good.
 
I thought Mara was good in the role.

I think the books and story are over-rated. Good but not great. The stuff about Millennium is too prominent and not very interesting to me. The mystery of Harriet is good. I like the way the movie abbreviated the final resolution of that story. In the book, it drags out way too long.

I think this new version of the movie compares favorably to the Swedish version. Mara had a tough act to follow and, in my opinion, she answered well.
 
I thought Mara performed well in the Salander role, too.

Before I saw the film, I was surprised to see that she had beaten out names like Natalie Portman and Scarlett Johansson for the part. After seeing the film, I like that the director cast a lesser known actress like Mara for the part, rather than a star like Portman or Johansson. IMO, both of those two would have brought baggage to the role that would have undermined the Salander character somewhat.
 
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