Got my eye on a Samsung DLP 61 inch TV. $4100 right now at Circuit City. Anyone have one of these and have an opinion either way. I've noticed that at Circuit City there are "motion artifacts" during fast moving scenes..but this may be because they had 6 or 7 TV's running off the same HD receiver and it was the last one down the line. The LCD rear projections look good too but the black levels suck. Should I pull the trigger or wait?
Samsung DLP
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KingKoopa
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i really liked that 40" LCD panasonic had. I haven't been to see any DLPs in awhile, but you're right about all those TVs being hooked to one receiver degrading the quality a little bit. chances are, they have it all hooked up with ****** cable because they're too cheap to eat the cost of their expensive cables.
i would try looking up some reviews of it on google.
i would try looking up some reviews of it on google.
PhoneSexHorn
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I love the Sammys. I plan to get one later this year. You can expect the prices to drop some more, especially on the 61", since the 2004 model is due out in the next month or so. Hornin NYC just got the 46" version, so he can help you. (The electronics in the HLN line are the same for all models.) This site should help you a lot: The Link
I bought the 56" a couple of months ago and have been very happy. The new version of the Sammy's will be out in August/Sept. and they have some things that make the people on the AVS Forum drool but I'm not sophisticated enough to care/notice about the changes to justify the wait. I bought mine at A&B TV in Austin and they had some motion issues when showing some fast moving whites but I haven't noticed anything like it at home. In any event, I'm not an expert on this sort of stuff but I've been really pleased with it.
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I bougth the 50 inch DLP and so far it's been great.
One caveat, I'd make sure your room is big enough for the 61 inch. Mine is only barely big enough fro the 50 Inch.
You should be 4 times the screen width away to avoid eye strain.
i ddi my research on all the models (DLP, Plasma, LCD) and I'm convinced DLP is the way to go unless you have serious space constraints that would require a plasma.
Watching the Sopranos last nigh in HD was awesome on my DLP.
One caveat, I'd make sure your room is big enough for the 61 inch. Mine is only barely big enough fro the 50 Inch.
You should be 4 times the screen width away to avoid eye strain.
i ddi my research on all the models (DLP, Plasma, LCD) and I'm convinced DLP is the way to go unless you have serious space constraints that would require a plasma.
Watching the Sopranos last nigh in HD was awesome on my DLP.
You're probably better off posting your question on this forum: The Link
I'm going to wait until the next gen comes out in late summer/early fall for a variety of reasons.. Until then, my 20-year old 19" Hitachi will have to do.
Hornin: I looked at the newer DLPs a few weeks ago, and the salesman at Ultimate Electronics told me the optimum viewing distance is 2 times the screen size (diagonal). I believe this standard only applies to HD, though. In my case, that means a 50" would be best, but when viewing an HD broadcast on the 56" at my viewing distance (105"), it still looked great. More info. on viewing distances: The Link
I'm going to wait until the next gen comes out in late summer/early fall for a variety of reasons.. Until then, my 20-year old 19" Hitachi will have to do.
Hornin: I looked at the newer DLPs a few weeks ago, and the salesman at Ultimate Electronics told me the optimum viewing distance is 2 times the screen size (diagonal). I believe this standard only applies to HD, though. In my case, that means a 50" would be best, but when viewing an HD broadcast on the 56" at my viewing distance (105"), it still looked great. More info. on viewing distances: The Link
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Hornin NYC
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I was watching mine some more last night, the HD signals are just sick. On HDNet they had a bikini shoot at lake powell.
It was unbelievable.
The non-HD signals look pretty good too, it won't be off the charts because of the nature of the digital TV but it still looks good.
It was unbelievable.
The non-HD signals look pretty good too, it won't be off the charts because of the nature of the digital TV but it still looks good.
Grinder..I have posted on and searched that sight for info. Those dudes are out of my league....I can't understand the language they're speaking over there, except for "motion artifacts" and "black levels." Figured I could get some "normal" opinion over here. As far as the viewing distance...my brain may say to go with a 50 inch...but my heart says I gotta go with the 61 inch.
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Hornin NYC
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Here are some things that can help, this coming from one who dug into all the stuff on the AVS forums until I understood most of it.
you need 9 feet for a 50 inch (9-11) they say, if you don't have more than ten feet dont consider the 60 inch.
You saw artifacts in when watching an SD signal (standard def - reg TV) because they don't use digital cable at CC, they use a regular coax input into the set. I checked and asked (I got mine from CC). It will look MUCH better (no artifacts) using s-video and up.
The Samsung DLP tvs arae very cheap now becasue they are releasing second generation DLPs in a few months. Results are mixed on whether it's worth it to wait.
Here are two good threads on Samsung DLPs:
The Link
The Link
I am SURE a 60 inch is too big. It makes the 50 inch look small at CC becasue it's right next to the big boy, when u get it home it's HUGE (the 50)
you need 9 feet for a 50 inch (9-11) they say, if you don't have more than ten feet dont consider the 60 inch.
You saw artifacts in when watching an SD signal (standard def - reg TV) because they don't use digital cable at CC, they use a regular coax input into the set. I checked and asked (I got mine from CC). It will look MUCH better (no artifacts) using s-video and up.
The Samsung DLP tvs arae very cheap now becasue they are releasing second generation DLPs in a few months. Results are mixed on whether it's worth it to wait.
Here are two good threads on Samsung DLPs:
The Link
The Link
I am SURE a 60 inch is too big. It makes the 50 inch look small at CC becasue it's right next to the big boy, when u get it home it's HUGE (the 50)
I ahve been considering remodeling my Den and making a large builtin where I could slide a big screen DLP or LCD back into an adjoining closet when not in use. the light weight makes this now a possibllity for a clean look for the room.
But I have been just getting by with my regular cable dropping the digital about a year ago. So I would need to get the digital again to have a deent picture consistantly? Is that correct?
I would probably do that anyhow but was just wondering. Good info on the viewing distance as the room is like 25 by 22 and I was going to have the screen relatively far away from the seating area.
But I have been just getting by with my regular cable dropping the digital about a year ago. So I would need to get the digital again to have a deent picture consistantly? Is that correct?
I would probably do that anyhow but was just wondering. Good info on the viewing distance as the room is like 25 by 22 and I was going to have the screen relatively far away from the seating area.
Random advice on large televisions...they look much bigger when you get them home. I made my purchase (Sony rear projection LCD) with my balls instead of my mind, and went with the 60" over the 50". 3 weeks later I returned the 60" and got the 50". Viewing distance of about 11' The 60" was just too big, as difficult as it is for me to say that.
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Hornin NYC
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H4L,
Not necessarily. In fact Im geeting a lot of AV geek reccomendations to use over the air for my local channels.
Supposedly non digital cable would look ok.
Not necessarily. In fact Im geeting a lot of AV geek reccomendations to use over the air for my local channels.
Supposedly non digital cable would look ok.
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Hornin NYC
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Grinder that site kickss ******* ***.
Ok an update on my DLP.
SO far I've noted the following:
HD channels look superb, no compaints, just sick.
My DVD is over component (no DVI on my DVD), it looks good, much better than on my old CRT TV but not as good as HD (not surprisingly). It will look better after I get a DVD with DVI-out.
SD TV ranges from ok to fantastic. The local tv channels look just ok, I've been told this is becasue Direc TV must crry ALL the local channels and they are heavily compressed.
Normal cable channels like MTV and Discovery look awesome, they are not as compressed supposedly (All this info from AVS forums).
This is not a function of the TV, rather a function of Direc TV (it's a signal issue).
The AVS forum guys say for local TV Channels you should use OTA (over the air) antenna signals, just plug it into your DirecTV STB.
But wait, ABC and CBS are broadcast in HD NYC
w00t, problem solved. F NBC!
There are 3 problems typically associated with Samsung DLPs
1) Green tint effect - I dont have this, supposedly the new ones are calibrated right, in any case it takes 2 seconds to fix
2) Color wheel rainbow effect - I have been trying to see this, I don't have it.
3) Audio/Video synch problem - supposedly theres a batch of TVs with this problem, I don't have it, and if you do samsung gives you another set.
I am currently 100 precent satisfied with the TV.
Ok an update on my DLP.
SO far I've noted the following:
HD channels look superb, no compaints, just sick.
My DVD is over component (no DVI on my DVD), it looks good, much better than on my old CRT TV but not as good as HD (not surprisingly). It will look better after I get a DVD with DVI-out.
SD TV ranges from ok to fantastic. The local tv channels look just ok, I've been told this is becasue Direc TV must crry ALL the local channels and they are heavily compressed.
Normal cable channels like MTV and Discovery look awesome, they are not as compressed supposedly (All this info from AVS forums).
This is not a function of the TV, rather a function of Direc TV (it's a signal issue).
The AVS forum guys say for local TV Channels you should use OTA (over the air) antenna signals, just plug it into your DirecTV STB.
But wait, ABC and CBS are broadcast in HD NYC
There are 3 problems typically associated with Samsung DLPs
1) Green tint effect - I dont have this, supposedly the new ones are calibrated right, in any case it takes 2 seconds to fix
2) Color wheel rainbow effect - I have been trying to see this, I don't have it.
3) Audio/Video synch problem - supposedly theres a batch of TVs with this problem, I don't have it, and if you do samsung gives you another set.
I am currently 100 precent satisfied with the TV.
Boozehound
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Gotta go for the bigs. I bought a 64" HD Pioneer CRT rear projection about 6 months ago and I can't see size as an issue unless your room is tiny. In college, We had a 120" set up (8" CRT projector) in a standard size living room and it worked out just fine. I can't imagine great price reductions for DLP in the next year, so knock yourself out - bigger is better.
PhoneSexHorn
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Hornin NYC
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NBC doesnt broadcast in H def like CBS does
CBS has a high def channel.
Yeah well, I can't see the rainbow anyway.
CBS has a high def channel.
Yeah well, I can't see the rainbow anyway.
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Hornin NYC
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All the samsung DLP have computer inputs.
