Safety that was not

[old65horn]

Why was that not a safety?

I do not understand why it was not

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Because the refs are ******* morons.

 

[horninchicago]

Because the refs are ******* morons.

Lock thread.

 

[militaryhorn]

Because the refs are ******* morons.

Instant Classic...as mentioned before lock it down!

 

[OrangeShogun]

The foul of IG occurs when A) the passer is not outside the tackle box and throws an incomplete pass where there is no eligible receiver, or B) when the passer is outside the tackle box and the incomplete pass does not reach the LOS.
I think Young was outside the tackle box, but in this instance, it doesn't really matter. Because the pass was batted down (backward actually) by the defender, there is absolutely no possible way to determine if the pass would have reached the LOS, or if there would have been an eligible receiver in the vicinity (wherever the pass may have landed).
Incomplete pass. No IG. No safety.

My explanation from the game thread, but it has since been pointed out that Young's left shin appeared to be down prior to the pass attempt. Had he been ruled down, the result would have been (should have been) a safety.

 

[2003TexasGrad]

I haven't seen a more badly called game in favor of an opposing team since....... not sure but its been a long *** time.

 

[1sahorn]

I haven't seen a more badly called game in favor of an opposing team since....... not sure but its been a long *** time.

I 2nd the motion.

 

[old65horn]

Total BS. How many times have we seen a flag thrown for grounding after the play is dead.

I assume big 12 refs. I will not miss the chaos created by Big 12 refs.

 

[Monahorns]

I haven't seen a more badly called game in favor of an opposing team since....... not sure but its been a long *** time.

You forget that game against Oklahoman St. during the Strong era. That was worse.

 

[old65horn]

You forget that game against Oklahoman St. during the Strong era. That was worse.

Yes, I believe that game is in Wikipedia as an example of horrible officiating.

 

[ViperHorn]

Yes, I believe that game is in Wikipedia as an example of horrible officiating.

Taff's last game at Baylor was just as bad as that oSu game.

 

[1sahorn]

Taff's last game at Baylor was just as bad as that oSu game.

Worse

 

[Chop]

Taff's last game at Baylor was just as bad as that oSu game.

Worst I’ve ever seen.

 

[1sahorn]

Worst I’ve ever seen.

The Zebras determined the outcome of that game long before the team's took the field. They were NOT going to allow Grant to lose his last SWC game.

 

[RainH2burntO]

That play has to either be in the grasp or tackled down (shin/knee hitting) for safety or intentional grounding in the endzone resulting in a safety by rule...and there was certainly no roughing or targeting.

 

[TexasFight86]

Ref said the play (intentional grounding) was not reviewable - but couldn't Sark challenge the point at which Young was down? I know this all happened quickly as the refs complicated it with targeting (you can't be serious) and a phantom personal foul. But the play is reviewable to see where / if / when he was down.

National media acknowledges today, refs weren't intending to let Bama lose that game and Texas mistakes - dropped TD, missed FG allowed it to happen.

 

[old65horn]

Ref said the play (intentional grounding) was not reviewable - but couldn't Sark challenge the point at which Young was down? I know this all happened quickly as the refs complicated it with targeting (you can't be serious) and a phantom personal foul. But the play is reviewable to see where / if / when he was down.

National media acknowledges today, refs weren't intending to let Bama lose that game and Texas mistakes - dropped TD, missed FG allowed it to happen.

That is total bull ****. How many times have you seen refs confer AFTER a play is over and then throw a flag.

 

[Pomspoms]

You forget that game against Oklahoman St. during the Strong era. That was worse.

that game was the king of bad/biased officiating.
I still feel the angst of that game to this day not that I think about it much.
But this game against Bama should have been in the win column had it been called even a little more correctly.

 

[BLucky]

My explanation from the game thread, but it has since been pointed out that Young's left shin appeared to be down prior to the pass attempt. Had he been ruled down, the result would have been (should have been) a safety.

And the player being down IS a review able call.

 

[Pomspoms]

Taff's last game at Baylor was just as bad as that oSu game.

hmmmm, was it against tx?
I have forgotten that game but I do vaguely remember another badly officiated game against us. maybe that was it.

 

[OrangeShogun]

That play has to either be in the grasp or tackled down (shin/knee hitting) for safety or intentional grounding in the endzone resulting in a safety by rule...and there was certainly no roughing or targeting.

There is no "in the grasp" rule in college football. As has been explained ad nauseum, IG is not possible when the pass is batted by the defense. Now the shin being down, that's another matter all together, but I will freely admit, even after watching multiple replays during the game, it did not occur to me (or the announcers, officials, etc.) that the QB may have been down prior to the pass being thrown.

 

[ViperHorn]

hmmmm, was it against tx?
I have forgotten that game but I do vaguely remember another badly officiated game against us. maybe that was it.

Yes

 

[NRHorn]

My explanation from the game thread, but it has since been pointed out that Young's left shin appeared to be down prior to the pass attempt. Had he been ruled down, the result would have been (should have been) a safety.

Hey Orange- I wrote that and I wasn’t trying to be a jackwagon. I don’t think you feel that way, you pointed out the ball to Demos helmet and you were right. I didn’t realize the shin either.
I found that picture online from someone else and shared it, but that wasn’t meant to be a jab.

 

[NRHorn]

hmmmm, was it against tx?
I have forgotten that game but I do vaguely remember another badly officiated game against us. maybe that was it.

I’ve stated that many times here over the years, two games I truly believe were fixed. That Baylor game and after the bonfire tragedy.
I don’t think this game was, just very poor officiating.

 

[Statalyzer]

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Thanks, Stat. I refer back to my original reply in this thread.

 

[nashhorn]

Nice still Stat.