Romney: First Non-Christian President?

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A majority of evangelical Christians believe that Mormonism is not a Christian religion.

Therefore, according to them, it is possible that Romney may be the first non-Christian President.

Oh, what interesting times we live in.
 
That's racist. But it fits right in with the visceral hatred many of the right-wing feel toward the first democratically elected black President of these United States.
 
What is racist is the outrageous "black liberation theology" rhetoric preached by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, This kind of message Christian perverts the legitimate message of Christianity to at least as great a degree as Mormonism does, that is for certain.

Does anyone really believe at this point that Barack Obama attended Jeremiah Wright's church because of his devout reverence for Jesus Christ or because of his heartfelt commitment to the teachings of Christianity? Does he really strike anyone as a particularly religious man at all?

The answer is going to be a big fat no to all but the most unrepentant leftist partisan hacks who will offer support for Obama unflinchingly, regardless of what he does or what the issue is. And of course we have several of those sorts who post routinely here in this forum.
 
What is racist is the outrageous "liberation theology" rhetoric preached by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright....

Please explain what "liberation theology" is; the type of "liberation theology" espoused by the good Rev. Wright; and how his form of "liberation theology" is racist? Bonus marks if you can distinguish Wright's "liberation theology" from the "liberation theology" preached by the Catholic Church in South America.

Obama's reasons for attending his local church is probably the same as for many whites. It is in their neighborhood, they like to congregate and socialize with their neighbors, and it is socially accepted.

How many people really, really attend church because of their "devout reverence for Jesus Christ"? Lol. I'm talking normal people, not the fringe groups.
 
South American liberation theology is a heresy? Like Christianity is to Judaism? Like Lutheranism is to Roman Catholicism? Or all the other "protestant" religions?

Liberation theology teaches that christianity should have a bias towards the poor in their favor. Read the gospels and there is plenty of support for that orientation; at least as much as for the bs being shoveled out in the other denominations.

The christianity practiced in the evangelical sects has about as much to do with Jesus's message as my farts do to renewable natural energy solutions.

I don't think Obama believed anything Wright was teaching except that blacks are an underclass in america and need to work together to get their ox out of the ditch. As an Ivy League educated upwardly mobile black man he probably doesn't believe in the whole god thing to begin with except as a nice set of myths to provide you with guidance.

As for the muslim stupidity preached by Obama haters, his granddad was a muslim convert, his dad converted back to christianity and he was raised by a couple of white christians from Kansas.

Read his book about his relationship with his dad and you can see why he would have a great sympathy for muslims; read the bios of his dad and mother and you will see why the idea that he is a muslim is idiotic drivel.

Mormons have a category for mormons who accept the religion but don't really belong in it. Romney is like that.

As for non christian presidents, does anybody see anything particularly christian about Lyndon Johnson? How about Nixon? How gentle and loving a man was Teddy Roosevelt, did he turn the other cheek a lot? How about Andrew Jackson? Read about the duel he fought and how he gunned down his opponent and tell me he was a christian, I don't even have to hear about what he did to the southern Indian tribes.

Christian nations is a concept sort of like peaceful Comanches or intellectual Karankawas
 
Liberation theology teaches that christianity should have a bias towards the poor in their favor.

That certainly is a heresy toward the Republican undestanding of the "true message" of Jesus. It's all "prosperity theology" for them. You're poor because God made you that way. If God didn't want you to be fleeced He would not have made you sheep. God wants you to keep your income; no real Christian could be for a progressive income tax.

Obama's parent, Stanley, was rather enlightened when it came to religion.
 
Barry's Christianity is about as close to the real Christianity as Romney's Mormonism is. Same for all the other Presidents. Obama goes to church like what, once a year at most? Understandably he's a busy guy, but, if you ain't busy enough to go golfing every sunday, you could prob work in a church now and then. It's merely for voting purposes, as is every thing a politician does. If the majority of Americans attended satanic rituals, prospective presidents would be ditching church and jumping on broomsticks.
 
I'm pretty sure Jefferson wasn't Christian. And I think Taft, or one of the other early 20th Century presidents was Unitarian.

And I agree with the earlier poster, it really isn't that interesting a topic.
 
Jefferson created his own version of the Bible. His beliefs could not be easily categorized into black and white and the current evangelical community would have had a hard time with him.

I have read the New Testament and few times and my feelings are generally that Jesus sided with the poor and oppressed and the pure message, as preached in Africa these days, really resonates and wins converts. It's not the sort of message you are going to get from millionaire televangelists. But the jet planes, mansions and diamond rings those guys earned in service to Christ do impress some people trying to simultaneously worship God and mammon. I have a little hedonism and materialism myself, but that's not the part of me trying to emulate Christ. I can't twist the scriptures enough to think God cares much about my material wealth in a world where many righteous people have much less than. I don't expect God to care much about my financial security since the good book repeatedly says that the rewards I should care about are stored in heaven.
 
I have read the New Testament and few times and my feelings are generally that Jesus sided with the poor and oppressed and the pure message, as preached in Africa these days, really resonates and wins converts.

I wonder about the so-called Christians here in the US of A who would deny a public school education to the children of illegal immigrants. People who would support that limitation are not Christian at all.
 
they can call themselves christian with just as much justification as the guys who burned witches or commissioned the sistine chapel and sold indulgences.

christianity is a heretical spin off from judaism, which has spun more directions than quicksilver on a moving turntable.
 
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