Romney attacked for Private Equity work at Bain

MojoMan

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A couple of observations on the recent attacks against Governor Romney regarding his work in Private Equity at Bain Capital:
1. This is a completely fair line of questioning and it apparently has not received any substantial scrutiny before now. If Newt Gingrich and certain other Republican candidates did not bring it up now, then it would certainly be introduced by Barack Obama during the general election campaign, if Romney were to be the nominee.

2. The timing of this is good and this is an excellent opportunity for Governor Romney to address this issue in depth while he is only under attack by Republicans. If he does a good job in doing this, it will serve to largely immunize him from the same line of attack by Barack Obama in the fall. So, he should count this line of attack by his fellow Republicans as a big positive.

3. I have been reasonably outspoken in support of Newt Gingrich here on this board. But his instigation of this line of attack is fundamentally contrary to the sort conservative principles he claims to champion. I am shocked and appalled to see this coming from him. Back around Thanksgiving I started posting articles and starting threads about Newt Gingrich's candidacy, with the caveat that I wanted to wait and see how he weathered the vetting period leading up to the Iowa primary before actually endorsing him over the other candidates. He was looking passably good, until this little stunt.

4. As discussed in the article below, it appears that the attacks against Governor Romney regarding his work at Bain Capital may actually be helping him to consolidate support in the Republican party presidential primary. However, now that the attacks have started, I hope they continue for a while and that this issue is thoroughly explored and vetted before moving on. Mitt Romney does need to explain himself here.

5. And this is an excellent chance for Romney to present the case for economic freedom and the workings of the markets vs government central planning, constant bailouts, and government mandates, which is the alternative method by which the sort of decisions that Romney made at Bain might be made. He has already started to do that in a very impressive and eloquent fashion. I am looking forward to hearing more from him on this topic.

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Well organized post. So I stopped to think about this bain issue

Why are Gingrich perry etc saying being at Bain is such a negative? I actually don't understand. is it desperation only on their part?
I have not made my mind up yet and it looks like my vote in a Texas primary will be meaningless but I was liking the newt of 2 weeks ago very much.
Now, not so much.
What did Romney/Bain do that is so against free market principles?
 
What did Romney/Bain do that is so against free market principles?

What makes you think Romney did anything that went against free market principles?

Newt is lambasting Mitt b/c it's politically expedient. Because he's a hypocrite. In short, b/c he's a regular politician.
 
I had to laugh at CNBC which jumped all over this and posted information that bain Co had actually helped Obama during talks on bailing out GM/Chrysler
made a BIG story out of it
except it was not the same Bain so retraction was issued.

from link
'Correction: Romney's Former Firm Bain Didn't Advise Obama"The Link
 
Newt is much smarter than he's played the last several weeks with regard to statements made about Romney/Bain. It reeks of desperation, base-pandering, and is very off-putting to me.

I personally do not like the idea of voting for a Mormon. However, I admire Romney for many reasons, one of them being his business career. He is the guy we need. His Bain experience and other business venture experience are exactly what this country needs right now - not an idealogue without a clue in Obama, the confrontational seasoned politician in Newt, idiots like Perry and Cain, or crazies like Paul and Bachmann. Gimme the Mormon. Go Joseph Smith and you bunch of fantasy-believing blondies.
 
I personally do not like the idea of voting for a Mormon.

Why? Do you only vote for Baptists? Do you have problems voting for Jews? How about blacks?
 
I agree that getting this out there now will make this old news come Summer and Fall. I'm sure the Ds are pouring all over these deals trying to see what they can come up with.

If the line of attack is, "some of the deals went bad and people lost their jobs" it will be easily rebutted in one word, "Solyndra". Except, of course, Bain was using private money and Solyndra collected tax payer $$ so it may even backfire.
 
Gecko,

That is a very excellent example of the left's preferred alternative approach to what private equity investors do:

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And there were many layoffs at Solyndra. And also at GM and Chrysler as well.

This is a debate that Romney is likely to win, hands down.
 
If the line of attack is, "some of the deals went bad and people lost their jobs" it will be easily rebutted in one word, "Solyndra". Except, of course, Bain was using private money and Solyndra collected tax payer $$ so it may even backfire.

Look, y'all are just talking about businesses getting gubmint money, handouts, payoffs, whatever you want to call it. Like any one pollitical party has clean hands when it comes to that. The Dems bail out their guys, Repubs do the same.

This isnt' that hard. Dems are going to hammer Romney in the fall not on any "free market" principles thing, but on jobs. They will make it emotional. And it will probably work to some effect b/c people are emotional.
 
Michtex,

If the government is giving them, it would be absurd not to take them. Also, these were state of Indiana tax breaks. If they values the jobs that highly, it is up to the state to decide their policy on that. However, the federal government needs to stay out of this business.

It makes sense for Bain to choose the best location for the companies it runs, in order to enable them to be as successful as possible. Clearly, that is what Bain and Romney were doing here.

If you want to find fault with anyone here, it should be the state of Indiana for offering the tax breaks. No sane person will fault Romney or Bain from taking these kinds of incentives that could potentially help strengthen their business and enable it to grow and succeed. What were they supposed to do, turn them down? That would be foolish in the extreme.

The problem is not with companies taking government money. It is with the government giving it. Although it should be left up to each state to make its own policy in this regard.
 
Don't governments set up tax breaks so companies will use them?
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Tax breaks are quite a bit different than granting money as in the Solyndra case.
 
As to why my feelings on Mormonism, seriously?

Yes. Seriously. Since you seem to be able to abide Jews, who are non-Christian (last time I checked, anyways, unless you're all into the Jews for Jesus thing), why can't you stomach the Mormons? I'm just trying to probe your selective religious bigotry.
 
Solyndra is not the only "green " compnay BO gave our money to that wenrt bankrupt

here is a list as of today;Beacon, Evergreen Solar, SpectraWatt, AES’ subsidiary Eastern Energy and Solyndra.
CBS to their credit is reporting on how much of our money went to companies so shaky only a fool would give them money, even money not their own
 
So let's make a list of companies that each party has bailed out.

Or any other industries and pet projects.

Don't forget banks, s&l's, defense, welfare, other entitlements, etc.

Until the brain-dead electorate is able to get past these pissing matches (and these threads don't give much hope for that) we're not going to improve anything. We have to cut back spending and raise some taxes. Until the Dems and Repubs nut up and shut up and get to work we're going to have petty, ticky-tack fights over "ooh, Solyndra got this much! Ooh, so-and-so got that much".
 
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I am sure you are right. Both sides have done it
The issue about what is going on noew is the piss poor decisions that end up costing taxpayers billions while paying off Bo cronies.
it is also what is happening NOW and that is what the next election will be based on, real time.

Just becasue one party did it does not mean the other party gets a pass to do it, to even things out.
 

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