Rivals list Texas as Loser in recruiting class.

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The Longhorns did not receive the memo that recruiting is now a year-round process, apparently. Texas ended the season with just 15 commitments, and only four of them were gained in the last eight months. It lost in-state five-star A'Shawn Robinson in the last weeks of the process. There was very little that went right in this cycle, and positive reflection would be really stretching for a silver lining. The school is bringing in six of its 15 players as three-star players. If all of that were not bad enough, it is juxtaposed with Texas A&M, which is building a monster with a high-paced offense and a dynamic head coach who emphasizes the grind of recruiting and believes in the process. A loss this year could turn into the norm if it Texas does not stem the tide.

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Unfortunately Rivals forgot to mention that the max Texas could recruit was 16. The issue on Robinson is the flip after numerous reconfirms. However his family's actions after he flipped suggest he would have had an issue fitting in at Texas.
 
The Big12 in general sucked this year as far as in recruiting rankings with nobody in the top 10 and OU ranked the highest at 15 according to Rivals followed by Texas at #23. Is this the lowest ranking in the Mack Brown era? The 2005 class was ranked #20 and only signed 15 guys but 10 of those 15 were all conference performers with Colt, Jammal, Quan, JerMichael and so on. I hope these guys shine like that class did.

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ESPN has Texas at 15, followed by OU at 16. TAMU, which the knob-slobbers at the Dallas Morning News were hoping would be top 5, came in at 8.

None of the rankings I have seen take reasons for the size of the class into account. Until you get to USC (at 14 on ESPN), the smallest class is Fla State at 22. TAMU leads the race with 34.
 
What does the last sentence of the quoted paragraph mean?

"A loss this year could turn into the norm if it Texas does not stem the tide."

A loss to whom? Are they referring to TAMU? If so, do they not realize annual Texas TAMU games are a thing of the past?
 
This question has been bugging me for a while so if you have any background please share it with me.

Are JUCO players rated on the same basis as HS players?

It seems most JUCOs are rated 3 star even if they are highly thought of. A case in point is Desmond Harrison who is thought by many to be the top JUCO OT in the country and is expected to step in at left OT for Texas.
 
DMN didn't even have a section on Texas. Hell it had a 1/2 of a page on OSU but not Texas. WTF is up with them? They had a page and a half on A&M.
 
Colt McCoy was a 3-star recruit as was Vaccaro if I remember correctly...Goodwin wasn't even on the radar when he committed to TX (track).
The "experts" can hate on our class as much as they want. I see a lot of upside in our small class.
In 2005 we only had 14 and a lot of those guys are now in the NFL. Not saying that's gonna happen to this class, but it's unfair to say that our new class isn't going to amount to anything until we see them play the next 3-4 years.
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If Texas had made the jump to the SEC, our class would have been ranked at #10 and the football team would have been ranked at #11 at seasons end and #8 after beating OSU in the Alamo Bowl.

Sports writer are full of crap......
 
I understand DMN slobbering over A&M, but to not even mention us while having 1/2 a page on OSU. I don't think they had anything on OU either. Just weird. Why TT and OSU and not Texas or OU?
 
Quite frankly, I don't really care. The only thing that matters is how the team produces on the field. Just win and the rest will take care of itself.
 
Texas did lose out on some top recruits to schools that we typically do not lose to. This is disappointing, very disappointing.

I would feel much better had Billings and Robinson come here. Most all of us would, to be honest. That being said, we all hope for the best, that a diamond or two will show up from this class, and that big wins will result.
 
We have major holes at every position on tje field other than running back and DE in my opinion.

I think 9-4 is here to stay for a couple more years. Lets hope we don't go back to 8-5 or 5-7.
 
What is really laughable is Rivals is calling a team a loser that is ranked 9th in average stars (3.6) per recruit by their own assignment. So basically we recruited in the top 10 when accounting for the quality of players in the amount we could legally take, Yep, losers.
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5 players de-committed to Mack Brown this year. Including our only 5 star at a need position right before signing day. Do you call that winning?
 
Whether it's winning or not depends on what you consider to be the game. How, at this point, can you say we lost anything other than some ratings scheme?
 
Re: the four Bama guys arrested.

Brent Calloway is a 6-1, 217-pound Running Back from Russellville, AL. He is ranked No. 90 in the country by 247Sports. Calloway is the No. 4 recruit in Alabama (AL) and is the No. 6 Running Back in the nation. Calloway has a 247Sports rating of 95, making him a 4-star prospect.

D.J. Pettway is a 6-2, 272-pound Weak-Side Defensive End from Pensacola, FL. He is ranked No. 81 in the country by 247Sports. Pettway is the No. 17 recruit in Florida (FL) and is the No. 5 Weak-Side Defensive End in the nation. Pettway has a 247Sports rating of 95, making him a 4-star prospect.

Tyler Hayes was a 4-star recruit on Rivals.

Eddie Williams - A consensus five-star recruit by ESPNU, Rivals.com and 247sports.com ... No. 11 in the ESPNU 150 and its No. 2 athlete in the 2011 signing class ... also the No. 4 player in the southeast and the No. 1 player in Florida by ESPNU ... 247sports.com rates him at No. 8 nationally in its Top247 while listing him as the service's No. 2 safety and the top player in the state of Florida ... Rivals.com has him as the country's top athlete, the No. 4 player in Florida and No. 24 in the Rivals100 ... Scout.com lists him as the No. 3 safety prospect.

Let's really get on the bandwagon and let Rivals, et al, determine whether we pass or fail.

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Williams didn't play in 2012. But he was one of the nation's top prospects the previous year and moved from receiver to safety. Clearly his case should be dismissed for fraud in the recruitment.
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Do I call that winning, you ask? Let's see, with the number we could recruit we finished 9th in avg. star rankings per commit in the entire nation. I'd say 115+ teams would call that winning. When you do "winner" and "loser" lists, it is the top end and bottom end in regards to all Div I teams that were in the process. Those who did the best and the worst considering the whole lot.

If you want to make the winners and losers of the Top 20 most renowned recruiting teams, then call it that. But saying we are recruiting losers this year is absurd. Yeah, we may have been down from our norm, but still VERY respectable in regards to the top programs.

And yes, we lost and handful of studs...but the only reason one could ponder that as losing is because of the expert job we did at getting them in the first place. If we had never gotten verbal commits from those who left and this class was judged solely off the ones we signed...there is no way in hell you call this a losing class.

Maybe a slightly down class from our norm, but being labeled a loser tells me only that the author of the article has no clue how to judge the actual signed results in regards to the parameters the team in question was limited to.
 
Guys,

I think for most teams in the country this would have been a win, but we are Texas, and I hoped for a lot more.
 
How many coaches would kill to have this class, even with its defensive shortcommings. If mack had the ability/knack of doing more with less and coaching up, I would be estatic. But , however........
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I would agree that the aggies won the Texas recruiting battle this year regardless of what Rivals says or rates players. That can't continue, a few years of that will have a long term impact on the program.
 
We just flat out didn't have the room that A&M had. Heck, we could have a ton of attrition and still not be able to pass out 30+ scholarships next season.

I complain about our recruiting shortcomings a ton, especially in terms of talent/attitude evaluation, but I prefer a class like this one with some "guarantees." Sans injuries, of course.

We're getting at least 3 bonafide OL starters out of this group. We haven't been able to say that in 6 years. We're getting some respect and leadership out of guys like Raulerson and Huhn. I'll take that and a smaller class any day over the disasters that were the 2006 and 2009 classes.
 
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