RIP Rodney King

what a tragic figure. Im suprised he made it this long.

The sad thing is none of what happened to him was because hes black. This **** happens to white, black, and brown every day.

And if any of you prius diving co-exist bumper sticker havin' knuckleheads doubt me??? Just go ahead and **** with the cops next time you get pulled over.. I dare you. I double dog dare you.
 
You can take the homie out of the hood and give him 3.8 million dollars, but you can't take the hood out of the homie.

RIP Rodney.
 
It seems like hook knows the facts about the incident beyond the snippet of video the vast majority came to know. I have full confidence that were the person white they would have gotten the same beat down and probably rightly so. They went a bit overboard towards the end but were I a Cop and a suspect was doing what he did and did what he did, they'd be in for a hell of a beating to subdue them. This is especially after endangering countless innocents on the streets, getting up after being tasered, taunting the cops, being defiant to the cops and acted like a convict would. He acted like he was on pcp, as a matter of fact.

I totally feel that if I were to ever try to pull that **** I would end up dead from a bullet and I don't know I would not deserve it either. I am not the biggest fan of cops and their chips on the shoulder routine but I know not to screw with them, ever. It's yessir, no sir each and every time. I have white skin and fear them.
 
To suggest that the police have generally and historically treated blacks the same way they treat whites is an exercise in willful ignorance.

To assert with absolute certainty that the incident had nothing to do with race is to embrace a guess rather than a certainty. It smells of the preemptive "this ain't about race" declarations that pop up on West Mall the second race is mentioned.

I can't say for certain race was involved the minds of every or any officer there, but I can't rule it out just because it makes me feel good. Further, the video became a representation of the historic disparity between police and court treatment of blacks accused of the same crimes as whites.

King (how ironic that this was his name) is an inapt representative of the hopes and aspirations of any ethnic group, but that's what that video ended up representing.

So, hooklahoma, make all the pronouncements you like about things you know only vaguely. I like the tough guy language, too. Very credible. Very compelling as an argument.
 
loop,

Not that it gives me particularly special knowledge, but I was in LA at the time of the incident and when the verdict came down exonerating the police officers. I read about the case while I was there.

I was also there for the riots and didn't go anywhere for two days without a tire iron in my hand and a knife in my pocket.

The whole sequence of events starting with the release of the verdict becomes a theater of the absurd. The police were "ready" for the possibility of the riot which started at the corner of Florence and Normandie. By being "ready" they didn't do anything for fear of making things worse. All their reluctance did was encourage an outbreak of general lawlessness.

Across LA it became "No pay at the store day." People were looting buildings in a manner that looked like a celebration rather than a protest. Places burned. I went to a hill top beneath Griffith Observatory and saw the pillars of smoke rising all across the city. It looked like Beirut when it was under siege.

Then King makes his public appearance to ask if we can't all get along. Not Dr. King, Rodney King. The world turned upside down from the Civil Rights movement and the turmoil then.

I think the cops did use excessive force with King from reading about the case and watching the video. I don't think the tasing was excessive and recognize that he was extraordinarily difficult. I think the cops could have subdued him without the clubbing at the end.

King was not a good guy and never really was beyond his plea for people to get along as far as I can tell.
 
How ironic that he died in the swimming pool paid for by the money he got (stole) from the taxpayer, aided by the slut juror who hooked up with him after the civil trial.

So in effect, he did die from his beating. Excellent.

Just another dead felon. CA is a safer place with him dead and off the road.
 
I've read that artists are busy at work sculpting a bronze statue of Rodney.
They're beating it into shape as I type.
 
The history of black v. white has nothing to do with the individual case of Rodney King. If you took out that he was black and put an account of what he did and then yourself into the mindset of a cop, it comes out the same. If you or I did what he did, when and where he did it you cannot tell me you don't expect a royal *** beating from the cops. Having lived in LA you damned well know this. Or should.

Granted I know a bit more about the seedy aspects of LA than you probably do even that has nothing to do with this one guy, this one case and this one tragic episode. And to have been in LA and not mention the immense impact that James Edward Olmos had in the cessation of the riots is unfair.

You are very correct in that there has been some really horrible things done towards blacks. Same goes for mexicans and a host of others. But again, that is not what I addressed. I addressed the felon/ex-convict too once again be a convict who led the cops on a long and dangerous high speed chase. The guy who did not stay down with tasers, the guy who mooned the cops, the guy who did not listen or follow instructions, who acted erratic as if he were on pcp. The guy who a cop properly nailed was a convict with tattoos and build...he's a good sized guy. A guy who resisted arrest (when the other rider complied fully with the cops...why was he not beaten? he was black too) and put the cops in fear for their lives and that of the public if this crazy big convict guy got loose or free.

It was at this point that their adrenaline got the best of them. Did he get too much? Yes, yes he did. Did he deserve some form of beating based on his actions? Yes. Again, do I think that if you or I or anybody else here did the same thing, that we'd get a beat down or even shot? Yes, without a doubt.

That's this case, this instance and those circumstances the way they played out. Not just the snippet of video played again and again on tv with nothing before or after shown.
 
loop,

I was addressing a remark that declared that there was no racial element to the beating. I don't think anyone can make that claim credibly who hasn't done extensive research with the people involved. My guess is that Hooklahoma hasn't done that.

I never say the beating was necessarily racially motivated. Such a remark would fall under the same category as Hookla's bald assertion.

I was very specific in what I was addressing. Do you rule out the possibility that what happened to King may have had a racial element to it?

The theater of the absurd was this incident (like the OJ trial which became oddly linked to this) becoming the flashpoint for racial relations. King was in the wrong. Cops have the right to use force. I don't deny that. But I think they used too much.
 
loop,

Now reading your second consecutive post addressed to me.

I don't need the world explained to me. I took the aspects you mention into consideration. I don't find the adrenaline or amped up arguments particularly compelling. I've seen cops leap on a suspect who was on the ground and subdue them a hundred times on video.

Mine is not an anti-cop stance.
 
The etymology of the word 'racist' has become pretty interesting. The current version seems to be anyone who disagrees with a liberal.
 
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