Right Calls Saverin Hero For Renouncing US...

Satchel

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....citizenship.

I don't get cons:

Eduardo Saverin, the billionaire co-founder of Facebook who recently renounced his U.S. citizenship to slash his tax bill, moved to Miami at the age of 13 because he was at risk of kidnapping.

The 30-year-old was on a gangster's list of potential kidnap targets which led his wealthy parents to flee Brazil in a potentially lifesaving move.



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In Saverin’s case, his decision to renounce his U.S. citizenship will have a definite impact, and for that, those of us who seek smaller government should view him as a hero. Saverin’s decision will starve the feds of revenue they would almost certainly waste, it will force a rethink of a tax code that penalizes income and investment success, and the unconsumed dollars kept from the hands of government will reach today’s and tomorrow’s businesses. Let’s raise a glass to Eduardo Saverin. He’s a true American hero.
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Speaking for "The Right", we just had our ultra-secret meeting last week, and no one said anything about this. Clearly John forgot to forward this to our Committee for Grand Hyperbolic Statements For Universal Conservative Acceptance.

I'll get on this. Thanks for your concern.
 
"The Left" does not get it. We need to be competitive with other countries in the way we treat businesses and their owners. Otherwise, the business and their owners will go elsewhere.

Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money.
 
satch got the wrong white devil - y'all all look the same
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That's true - our fonts are EXACTLY alike! And we spell words the same... and we all use punctuation.

For the record, all I did was confirm that the additions were in fact made. I guess that makes me "hysterical".
 
He's not a hero. He's a disgrace and an traitorous, unpatriotic *******. If you're willing to renounce your citizenship (including all the civil rights and civil liberties associated with it) for money, f*ck you, and f*ck anybody who likes you or celebrates you for doing it. We don't need you.
 
It's actually true. I have 20 aliases and I type all the right-wing responses. I try to range the tone from good-natured ribbing to factual analysis to blind ranting in the hopes that no one will pick up on it. But satchel has exposed me through his ability to completely ignore any actual content and boil all conservatives down to one criteria - "they disagree with me, therefore they have nothing to add to my discussion."
 
To some extent - I'm trying to break that habit actually. Having said that, when you have a position that is pushed or promoted by the administration with no apparent opposition or refutation by any prominant liberal (or conservative) thinkers (or in our case, posters), it's not always inappropriate.

I would say we typically use either term for "the liberal or conservative establishment", and yes, that's definitely an ambiguous term. But there's a big difference between calling out "liberals" for their support of forcing private companies to violate their conscience in the contraceptive mandate controversy - which was being pushed very clearly by a large and vocal portion of self-described liberals - and quoting one blogger or writer and claiming that he or she speaks for the entire group.

But yes - it's not a good idea to generalize. Kind of like when you said that Christians who thought it was wrong that half the country didn't pay taxes were actually behaving hatefully, contrary to Christ's teachings and would answer to God for it. Wouldn't you agree?
 
One can hardly imagine just how dyspeptic the right would be if President Obama was engaged in a similar level of tax avoidance. Perfidious would be one of the nicer things he'd be called by the right.
 
Actually, alot of wealthy international business people take on citizenship in other countries specfically to avoid income taxes in the US. Move money overseas, leave Capital Investments in the US. Basically, pay Capital Gains taxe but little to no other taxes, it is actually rather common. The IRS has been cracking down on it lately, but the dual citizenship throws a wrench into the equation and muddies the waters.
 
Pharm, you said my statement was false. There is not a lot of room or need for discussion at that point, except in acknowledging that you just don't get it. I'll try to explain further. Rich people did not get to be rich by getting screwed over by people, even the President of the United States. So, we can tax them like crazy but just don't be shocked if they take their toys and leave the country. My point was that we need to look at whether our taxing system was "competitive" with other countries. To my way of thinking, we want the rich people and their companies and their buying power to stay in the USA. You said that was false. So be it. We disagree.
 
I wont go back and look it up but my strong guess would be that Pharm was pretty agitated about GE and their tax policies. It is a bit ironic.
 

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