Prometheus

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Originally conceived as a prequel to "Alien" (possibly the scariest film I have seen from a sheer terror aspect), "Prometheus" morphed into something altogether different. Ridley Scott has said it shares some "Alien" DNA, but is otherwise not connected and lies somewhere between the original "Alien" and "Blade Runner".

I don't go to the movies much these days, preferring to watch them in the comfort of my home, but this may be one I have to see on the big screen. It may ultimately be a disappointment, but for now I am really looking forward to it's release - four weeks from today.

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Alien is a first rank movie.

The second trailer is actually a little too long. They already have me hooked, I don't want to see too much of what will be in Prometheus.

It is interesting that the first, short trailer, strongly ties Prometheus to Alien, but the second trailer does, indeed, seem to make the movie look like a new animal. Intriguing.

Ridley Scott is a genius for visuals, I hope the story lives up to his visual capabilities.
 
I don't know how you can't connect the two together. The alien ship, the alien in the captains chair and the visual of the egg looking things on the floor. I strongly believe that this is not a prequel to aliens but instead a vehicle to show how the planet acquired the ship from which the alien species was taken from in the Alien movies.

Also, how would the "company" know about the aliens in the first place if there were no humans on the planet before they sent the original Alien cast to the planet to investigate?

I am very excited about seeing this movie.
 
Is that a toaster reference?

Went to see Avengers today and another Prometheus trailer showed. Everybody collectively made oohs and aaahs during the preview. It's going to be quite crowded opening week.
 
The toaster comment relates to Battlestar Galactica. It is a derogatory comment the humans use for the cylons.
 
Thanks. I've seen a little of the new version which actually looked pretty good. The original was unwatchable, well, for me anyway.
 
It's been showing in Europe for a week or two now (6/1/12). Lots of fan reviews on IMDB. A lot of them disappointing, which surprises me. You can find out the whole plot if you so desire. I will see this one regardless and judge for myself.
 
I'll see it, too. Ridley Scott is brilliant visually, but he (as he has admitted, to his great credit) is not great at story. He needs a solid script to start out with as he doesn't develop them well. He is far more interested in what a film will look like.
 
I enjoyed it too and am very glad I did not go in expecting an Aliens prequel. If you do you will be let down. Let it stand as its own movie and story and just pretend the ending did not go down the way it did. Not all of it, just one scene in particular about a minute before the credits roll.
 
Prometheus takes 3D technology and knocks it out of the park. It is a visually stimulating movie and that makes it worth something. It mostly kept my interest for two hours. But ultimately, it was a derivative and disappointing experience. Very much like watching Alien again without the suspense. Alien was a terrifying movie the first time. Prometheus isn't scary at all. That's because you've seen it all a hundred times before.
 
My wife and I enjoyed it in 3-D.

The visuals were striking and from me get an A.

But the story, specifically the portion revealed in this offering, only gets a C.

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The first 2/3s of this flick had a very good buildup,

But the ending 1/3 just wasn't as good, IMHO, and came as somewhat of a letdown for us.

Little real suspense, no audience terror, decent casting and acting, lots of questions put forth and still begging to be answered, good pace and, all in all, it is a well made sci fi movie.

However, seasoned, long time moviegoers like us could find it derivative, as we did, with almost everything having been seen before in a number of other films both related and unrelated.

Being derivative, in and of itself, is not necessarily bad if it is well done and here I thought it all was done OK but there was much that could have/should have been better.

As far as new stuff, the mapping robots were cool as was that automated surgical module.

I thought a flame thrower was a little suspect as a first line of defense on a spaceship, but it turned out to be handy.

And all the away team members seemed way, way, way, way too much like clueless, unsuspecting victims (more stereotypical of a slasher movie) than the well-trained, cautious scientists they should have been.

Take off the helmets on your isolation suits just because the atmosphere of an otherwise unknown planet (actually, I believe, the unexplored locale is a moon orbiting a giant, distant planet) is breathable?

Reach out to touch a live, threatening, alien, reptilian life form?

C'mon.

So, Ridley Scott, IMO, needed a better overall story concept, a better storyline and/or a better script to match up with his admittedly great talent as a visual storyteller.

Hopefully, this open-ended movie will be followed with a sequel that's a true and worthy prequel to "Alien" and "Aliens" which will bridge everything together.

The ending of "Prometheus" certainly sets up such a sequel and, if it is done well, any shortcomings here could probably be forgiven and forgotten.

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The expendables were way too expendable. They had no real role on an endeavor of this scale save being fodder.

Did anybody think for a minute the tatted cockney misanthrope was going to survive for 2 hours?
 
My expectations were too high. So many derivative and contrived plot devices through the film. I was disappointed.

There was audible laughter in the theater when.....

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....the main protagonist easily rolled parallel to a the falling ship which killed Charlize Theron's character who inexplicable did not do the same. If you saw a tree was falling on you, wouldn't you run sideways out of the path of the falling tree? Apparently they didn't teach that in spaceship captain's school.
 
Just saw it. Pretty poor effort overall. On Scott's part, I'd have to say it was either lazy or a case of self-love or both.

It's not a prequel to Alien or a sequel. It is Alien done poorly in my opinion. The most interesting character was the robot, that's a pretty bad condemnation of the script, direction, and acting right there although I think the actors are likely the least culpable.

The movie is rife with unbelievable things. Somebody spends a trillion dollars to get the space ship to this destination and the crew spend time drinking and loafing and not paying much attention to what they discover on the planet or explorers in trouble therein.

What a waste of budget and talent.
 
I plan on going this week and I appreciate all the feedback. I was hoping for something spectacular, but now at least I won't go in with expectations as high as they were before reading some of these posts.
 
The story just didn't fit together.
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So, a number of ancient races left behind images of giants beckoning us to a distant planet, which as it turns out was not the Engineer's home planet, but instead a planet with an unbreathable atmosphere (for either humans or the Engineers; same DNA) on which is located a base for building biological weapons to destroy the Earth. And it's not as if this is a recent development; two thousand years ago, the Engineers had this fleet ready to destroy the Earth, when their weapon got out of control and killed them all (save one).
 
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I agree with the other comments- the story had flaws. How does the driver leave his post to go have sex with Charlize Theron? Ok, pause for joke comment, but he had 2 lives in his hands when he left..

How does Charlize not run sideways from a falling croissant? Why does the boyfriend scientist not report his little issue earlier before going out again with the others? Why did the two scientists in the cave decide it was a good idea to keep looking for trouble rather than finding a safe place right next to the exit?

Here's a real question I'd like answered if someone can: Why did David implant the scientist with the dna of the aliens? Why was he helping them out? And did he want to help the scientist in the last scene only because it was his only option off the planet? I thought robots were not as concerned about survival and more concerned about obeying programs.

BUT- with all that said, it was a very good movie overall. It's a popcorn movie- you buy the ticket and $6 bag to escape for 2 hours, and for that it was a nice movie.

I would like to see if this is made into a sequel and would see it if so..
 
I think I can answer the part about the drink. It was a test to see what would happen on a live human. Very cold blooded and part of the main boss being an uncaring selfish ******* not allowing anything to get in the way of his goal.
 
David was a wild card for sure. Just before the team fled back to the ship, he picked up a canister of goo and stuffed it in his bag. Obvioulsy he had something in mind already at that point.

After I watched David and Charlie trade barbs at the bar, I began to think that David did it to get even with humans. There was some line about everybody wants their parents dead or something like that and humans were David's parents. But, who knows. It's just open question, hanging in the wind.

Also, since we'd not had any contact with the Engineers, how does David instantly speak their language? How does he know how to fly their ships?
 
didn't he take classes or instruction on ancient classes and read, maybe even deciphered the glyphs on the walls across the world? He was practicing some language while the others were in sleep state. Since he does not sleep he could process a lot of that type of stuff. It's a reach but maybe what they spoke was a hybrid of all he accumulated. He likely did not speak it fluently but enough to piss off the pasty white monster.
 
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