Player quits HS to play in Israel

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To the destined pro, this move makes sense to me. Who needs 2 years of college pre-reqs when you can hone your skills on the international scene?
 
It doesn't make all that much sense. Jeremy Tyler has some real maturity issues. I guess it makes sense to go ahead and get some money now, because it might not be there in the future, but that's the only way it makes sense.
 
Yeah I'm a dumbass, thanks for taking the time out of your day to point that out.
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For those of you currently representing the obscure and generic professional field of "consulting", or perhaps still clinging to special memories of that one bi-district playoff game you were in....high school was clearly very relevant and key to your development as a youth. Good for you, you made the right choice.

However, if your lot in life is to play professional basketball, the need to keep your game sharp so you can play at the next level is a legitimate reason to leave high school. (Be sure to get your GED dude). He's that good. Especially if one more year of high school could potentially hurt his development. I seriously doubt this move is him just "cashing in". $140,000.00 guaranteed money?? that's the kids furniture budget when he gets to the NBA. Oh yeah, he's that good.

Don't hate on the kid because he has a direct path and plan to achieving his professional goals.
 
Is that directed at me? Am I hating on the kid? He has known maturity issues. This isn't going to help them. He would be better served being in a good high school environment than going pro in the Israeli league at this time, IMO. It has nothing to do with his basketball skills, and everything to do with his life skills.
 
He has a chance to improve his life skills living in Israel. Living overseas is a challenge for a lot of people including spoiled young basketball players.

How he meets those challenges will determine what kind of player/person he will be.
 
Yeah, it may work out in the end, but he's not making the choice for the right reasons. He's not looking for new challenges to meet and conquer, so he can be on his way to being a man.

He's trying to avoid his senior year of high school, because he doesn't want to be going to school any more. Sonny Vaccaro has helped provide an escape from the responsibility, where he can get paid while he waits for eligibility for the NBA draft.

We'll see where it ends up, but I doubt seriously it ends up well for Mr. Tyler. Best of luck to him, though.
 
I don't remember that with Jeremy Tyler. Are you sure? Jordan Hamilton was wearing a UT cap, and actually rushed the court to celebrate with the players after the win. Are you sure that's not who you're thinking about?
 
It's easy to play devil's advocate on either side of this issue.

I still maintain that for a 17 year old kid with demonstrative maturity issues, the best course of action is to be in a good high school environment, not go seek out your professional career in a foreign country.

I don't know what your point is regarding "any social situation one will ever be in after graduating." I've found that people are people, and behave in much the same manner regardless of whether it's high school, the work environment, or bulletin boards. The roles change. The dynamics change. But many similarities still remain.

Tyler has not been around the right kind of people who can reach out to him. The people who made it possible for him to play in Israel do not have his best interests at heart. They have their own agenda --- primarily trying to make money off workarounds of the NBA one year in college rule. Tyler was susceptible to the influence.

Maybe it works out for the best. Maybe this ends up being a maturing process. Or maybe he ends up a footnote. I don't know. I just have a strong opinion --- for all that it matters, which is nada --- that this is a bad move on his part. There were other, more productive paths for him to pursue.
 
SL, I greatly respect and value your opinion and knowledgeable contributions on this board, but unless you know him personally, or have recruited him...how can you make such subjective assertions about his character?
 
Because Jeremy Tyler is a well known quantity on the AAU circuit, and has been for years. This is not some kind of unknown who suddenly appeared out of nowhere. His story has been circulated for several years. It's not terribly surprising he would be doing this, but as opposed to the folks who don't see any harm, and think it could be very beneficial to him, I see this as another in a long line of choices that were done for the wrong reasons, on the direction of people who do not have Jeremy Tyler's best interests at heart.

But at the end of the day, it's still just my opinion. Maybe this really is the best choice for him. I just don't happen to think so.
 
I'm pretty sure I heard that SL, unless somebody just lied about it (which is entirely possible). There was some talk on this board about it, because if you remember Tyler was the number one overall "prospect" (supposedly) in high school despite only being a Sophomore at the time. He was a big deal, then people started figuring out his work ethic wasn't the best and he kind hit the wall with the scouts for a while.
 
How many well-adjusted child stars are there? The ones you can think of verify how few there are. There's something to be said for doing what everyone else goes through, even if it doesn't seem like much at the time.

I'm not even sure that it's to the benefit of the football players who graduate early in order to do spring practice in college. I understand the reasoning, and it may seem like a great idea, but unless you make the big jump and become a star player, is it worth it?
 
No, you would be wrong to assume I graduated in the 70's. Late 80's though if that helps your point. I don't have much experience with collegiate golfers. I don't want to beat the proverbial deceased horse here, but I work a great deal with high school students and I believe it to be true that high school and its impact on the development of youth is undeniable and formative.

You don't have to look to far at recent busts in the recruiting circles to see that yes, high school premier athletes do speed around, smoke and have sex (how would ousucks field a team otherwise). Our greatest players of recent have had children upon entering UT. Of the youth I work with, the opportunities to experiment are much greater but the bottom line is they are no more mature than I was in high school or for that matter my contemporaries. As for my own kids, I think my advice is drawn from my own experience.

I spent the last year teaching incarcerated youth. I came away with many impressions but foremost was that they missed the socialization and structure of high school perhaps more than their own dysfunctional families.

If a golfer wants to be home schooled, so be it. But let's face it, the greats weren't/aren't. It is irresponsible of a parent to let a child drop out of high school. By the reasoning provided in your posts, any kid that has the ambition to be a mechanic or assembly line worker and enter the workforce at age 16 and avoid the needlessness of high school. Education is the cornerstone of an advanced economic system such as we have. Innovation is dependent upon it at all levels. Supporting this decision in any way leads us down a slippery slope.

I have put my soap box away and want to return to the unbelievable news that is the final piece of our 2009-2010 basketball team!!!
 
Sorry about that. Though I don't agree with homeschooling in most situations it is not the same as dropping out of school. In fact I don't use the terms next to each other at all. Just poor sentence transition on my part.
 
Well Michelle Wie went to high school. A very exclusive school in Honolulu.

As for the rest, the decision is based solely on money. There is a reason why Tiger Woods and Johnny Mc are interesting. They are well rounded. Same can be said for the greats in a lot of sports. It is a shortcoming of LeBron James in all honesty and he only skipped college.

Sure there will be people who claim that so and so is the salt of the earth and he/she is smarter than you think. But I am pretty sure that a conversation with home schooled guy who places athletics ahead of academics (which is the reason you gave for your semi-pro golf friends) is going to bore the **** out of me.

Let me end this thread on my part with the following...All, and I mean all 14-17 year olds are dumbasses. God live my own, but they are intelligent, well behaved, thoughtful dumbasses. lt would be a failure on my part to not maximize thier learning environment as they mature.
 
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